The reaction of Lee Eun Ji’s suicide is somewhat mixed, demonstrating the complexity of this issue. First of all SM commented “What can we say? We are shocked by this as well.” Personally, I wasn’t surprised by SM’s comment, but they could’ve done more than just say we don’t know what to say. Why couldn’t they dedicate a song to her? Why couldn’t they attend her funeral services? Why didn’t they stop all activities for a day or two in memory of their fan? After all, Lee Eun Ji was SuJu’s fan just like any other die-hard fan and just continuing with their activities as if nothing happened seemed inconsiderate if not obnoxious.
Star King’s producers wrote on their message board that they are heartbroken to see a very bright girl end her life tragically and aired a minute tribute in memory of Lee Eun Ji. And finally Elves (SuJu fans) released a public apology letter apologizing for what they did. I’m glad to see some Elves taking responsibility of their actions, but what angers me most is that Lee Eun Ji’s cyworld post back in May clearly demonstrated that she was suffering from depression, but Elves just continued to torture the poor girl.
Lee Eun Ji mentioned that she went up to her attic several times because she thought that it was better to end her life than to continue with her rigorous diet (she starved herself for three months, drinking only one or two cups of milk daily). She also cried her heart out saying it’s very difficult to deal with all the crap she’s currently going through. Before her weight loss, people treated her like a pig and after her weight-loss people are treating her like a liar (some were accusing her of losing weight via plastic surgery and/or diet pills). Any sensible person would’ve realized that this girl is suffering a lot and that she’s in fragile condition, but Elves ignored her plead and continued to attack her, which apparently pushed Lee Eun Ji over the edge.
I just hope that this isn’t “hey I apologized and my conscience is clear” kind of deal. Instead, I hope that all fans learn the gravity of hateful comments towards celebs and fans to prevent future tragedies like this. Am I asking for too much?
Star King’s message, Eun Ji’s cyworld post and Elves’ apology
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SuJu fans are killers
Okay wow. When I saw this topic, I thought Suju fans went on a stabbing spree and killed a female star. And I thought they killed too people since it said II. Haha. Wait this isn’t funny. Anyway I just read the comments and I think you guys are taking this way too overboard. I think both sides bring up very interesting points. And both sides are right and both sides are wrong.
But what does it matter? This has nothing to do with us and saying these words isn’t going to do anything. But I guess you’re all just too bored and depressed with your lives to do anything but fight with people you don’t know over the internet.
But whatever, what I think isn’t going to resolve this.
I hope that girl rests in peace and in the next life, she won’t be dumb enough to take her own life because of what her classmates and a bunch of jealous girls said.
KT, you are not worth the mental exertion. Sorry. Play with yourself instead–from what I gather from your posts, onanism is your calling indeed!
popseoul,, youre not asking too much. I think some of the korean antifans/fans are way too overboard [no pun intented and by that I hope I wont get cyber-stalked too] anyway just look at the behaviors of some of the fans/anti-fans did to some stars and just re-consider the word cyber-stalking and internet witch hunting that`s very rampant in korea… [i`ve been reading things] and korean media can be too harsh sometimes, same goes for the fans… anti-fans and die-hard fans alike. i am a fan but at least I know my limitations and when to distinguish reality from fantasy and obsession from admiration.
Wow. You can’t even spell correct.
But that’s besides the point.
I think the things I said in the posts above actually make sense. And if you took the time to read it, you might agree that some of the things I said are true. And now that I think about it, the things I said in the last post were relly harsh. But the other posts, the ones that are about the other fans, they convey the point I was originally trying to express. If you read it, maybe you’d understand how I see this situtation.
That is unless you are a complete Suju Anti and don’t want to even hear the word Suju. In which case, sorry for wasting your time since talking to any kind of anti fan is like talking to a brick wall.
I understand the point of KT, but I think the main purpose of the newstitle is just to catch the attention of people. Anyone who reads the news will know that not all SuJu fans are killers. However, “Some SuJu fans are killers!” for a newstitle wouldn’t have the same impact. The idea is not to generally call all the fans killers, I think.
Again, I think SM is partially responsible for what happened. No company supports these girls’ behaviour more than SM. I know they would change the way they do their business, but it’d be kind if, at LEAST, they made an official statement of what happened. Even if they weren’t not a single percent responsible, they’re related to the fact. “Oh, we’re shocked” doesn’t sound like they cared much.
I also don’t think PopSeoul meant the Elves were lying when they apologized, but that it’s no use to do it after all damage is done. Can you really clear your conscience after being indirectly responsible of killing someone by just saying sorry? It would be wonderful if the girlfans learn with this story that being a fan doesn’t mean being irration – though I really, REALLY doubt they’re gonna change. But that’s just my opinion anyway.
KT,
I do not know how to spell? Show me where I have spelled a word incorrectly in the following post of mine:
“KT, you are not worth the mental exertion. Sorry. Play with yourself instead–from what I gather from your posts, onanism is your calling indeed!”
It’s rich that you are questioning my spelling ability when you do not seem to know proper English grammar. It’s not “You can’t even spell correct.” It’s “spell CORRECTLY.”
Finally, as for your questioning my motives, I am indifferent to Super Junior. In fact, the Korean pop music universe has no appeal for me. My interest in Korean entertainment is strictly limited to Korean dramas and movies.
To Non-SuJu fans,
Thank you for your support and voicing your opinions. And most importantly, letting SuJu fans know that non-SuJu fans clearly understood the meaning conveyed in this post with the post title.
Thanks again!
though i`m one of suju`s fan, i`m very disappointed. those fans are like DBSK fans (i`m also a fan of DBSK), i came upon this : “DBSK fans stop shinhwa`s fan from buying a shinhwa`s album, & forced that fan to buy a DBSK album, but that fan declined & went away, angrilly”. i don`t understand you fans.
well some fans took responsibility but they may not be the one who attack the poor girl. so some innocent fans might take responsibility for the incident.
i really idolise the girl, she work very hard to lose weight & people start accusing her & all that stuff.. tsk tsk..
being like those ‘bad example fans’ can actually chase away ‘the good fans’ & that make the ‘good fans’ either become the ‘antis’ or ’strangers’. but mostly won`t get chased, because they are real fans. real fans won`t die so easily.
in conclusion fans are, ok i change it, can be killing, but antis can be more killing…
those fans are suju`s fan, but they are like ‘antis’ to the poor girl…
lee su man should stop suju`s activities for a day for them to visit the girl`s funeral/grave. if he wants a better image for suju, he should do that. he might create a bad image for our suju if he does not do that.
what this talk about artist controlling their fan?????
do you seriously believes that they can do that?i am a fan of dbsk….i think if they are capable of doing that they would have told the fan to stop waiting for them out side the studio,stop chasing their car or stop trying to find out their phone number….
i also don’t think sm entertainment have anything to do to developed this fanaticism behavior….this is actually quite comment among female fan,for the info…..some fan of jacky chan beat up their boyfriend quite badly after hearing the news of his marriage(i’m not sure about the detail)…and some fan of british boyband “Take That” commits suicide after the band saperated…so this is quite a world wide crisis…
i really don’t think it is fair to blame the production company or the artist…you are asking them to take responsibilities of another human being life,people make there own choice,yes they are many influence along the way but how the influences effect your decision is all up to you….artist are not hero or devil they are just an entertainer that the job is to entertained people…
Basically SuJu should set guidelines for their fan club. If SuJu and DBSK keeps letting this happen they are really going to lose fans and the only fans they are going to have are the crazy ones. Pretty soon all their fans are going to be finding another group and the only ones left are the fan members no one really wants to associate them self with.
Maybe this is one of the reason why they say that records sells are not really doing that good. It is because of all these none sense that they let happen.
fans in korea r extreme!! they need to understand everyone likes different things! they agitate me sometimes too extreme
ah they are so mean.. i understand suju for not doing at least a thing because they are taking care of their image.. a simple reaction or move for what happened may cause a bog misunderstanding for some poor-headed fans.. i believe that deep inside their heart, they feel very sorry for what happened to the poor girl..
people shud know when to stop.. at least..
ei gaek and KT really drives me crazy..
anyway [im a poor english speaker so please dont mix me up with the fight]..
sumhow, i agree with KT.. ^_^
at least change the title.. at least..
I think even a single person’s death, who is somewhat remotely related to the fans and the celebrity himself dserves to be lamented.
Yep, suicide is considered as a cowardly way out, but people only commit suicide when they see no visible end to their agony, if not, they will press on. And if SM dedicate a song or sth, it will somewhat help towards alleviating the pain of the girl’s family and frenz.
I do not think it’s so much a matter of seemingly taking responsibility if SM dedicates a song to the girl; but it will be a decent and helpful thing to do.
So scary the online communities. It’s the girl’s life,and the celebrity’s life; do we have to get so involved?
man… the fanatic fans of suju are freaks! i am a suju fan, n yes i do jealous when she took picture wif kangin, but then again, its not until i feel like i want to threaten her… gosh! LIVE A LIVE FANATICS! Its not like the Suju boys r going 2 marry them! n i wondered what will happen to their gf (if they hav 1).. no wonder korea celebrities keep secret of their love life! fanatics really r scary! n whats da use of da apology when they’ve made her kill herself! damn fanatics!
R.I.P 2 her…
You guys have to realize. Pop Seoul will NEVER change the title. Because he/she has her own thoughts. She obviously just doesn’t like boy bands. And that’s okay because she’s entitled to her own thoughts.
Remember that this is NOT a news site. It’s just a site that has shows pictures, information, and Pop Seoul’s personal feelings. So Pop Seoul doesn’t have to change the title and probably won’t. Because changing the title will take so long but whatever… Just shut up and go on with your lives.
1. It’s E.L.F. not ‘Elves’
2. If SM were to put any of their artists on a break, even for a day or two for every extreme stunt a fan pulled… well, we’d never see these stars again.
3. I feel bad for the girl but suicide is a choice.
“Die-hard fans” Who knew how literal it could be. I think the girl is responsible for her death, but at the same time, anyone is vulnerable when depressed. I know I am. But I have people to comfort me and lift me out of that darkness. Did no one try for that girl? I feel bad for her. Fans shouldn’t harass some one just because of a picture and such. Wouldn’t they do the same thing if they had the oppurutunity? I am some what surprised by SM reaction, but not completely. Maybe acknowledging it would be too much for them, or taking responsibility would heave a heavier guilt on to them. They have their lives, their own problems, it might be too much for the conscience.
I completely agree with you popseoul, how someone can do this is beyond me. This girl had already over come so much and people who were obviously jealous decided to make her life hell. She was not weak. I have battled with depression for most of my teenage life (I am now 20) and I can tell you for a fact that if i had had people saying that to me as well as everything else that was going on (just like hers all added up) I would have probably done the same. Unless you have been there, that close to killing yourself you’ll never understand just how hard it can be NOT to do it. So don’t sit there and say that she was weak for taking her own life because yes suicide is a choice but when living is so difficult its not weak to give in. By that point you’re just so tired of everything that you can’t go on anymore and by calling this girl weak you’re proving that you just don’t understand.
As for changing the title, I don’t think it should be changed. I read the title and at no point did i think that it meant all suju fans, because assuming that is a little stupid. I’m a huge suju fan, I love the boys, but if i knew someone who had taken a picture with one of the boys I would be happy for them because that is what you do, you don’t hate on them thats beyond childish. These E.L.F members who did this, these so called fans, are responsible for this girls death. I’m not saying they’re the only people responsible but they helped push her over the edge and tbh an apology is not good enough because that won’t stop them doing it again.
No the boys can’t control their fans, but they could issue a statement saying how disappointed or worse they are in the fans that did this. Those fans should also be dismissed from E.L.F because they have no right to call themselves suju fans, if they were they would not do that. And a statement from suju saying that would probably have a greater effect on these girls than eun ji dying, it might be shallow but its probably true.
And sm ent are partially to blame, because they do encourage the die-hard fans. How else could they release so many editions of a cd (4 with DBSK’s O album) and 20 million pieces of merchandise (yes i’m exagerating), without knowing that the fans will buy every single thing that their idols are on.
ant-fans and fans like this are all the same – i said when the anti-fan poisoned yunho that i could never understand it, and i still don’t. I doubt I ever will.
*~*cheonsa*~* – I totally agree with what you said, especially your comments on depression. I have just graduated with my degree in Psychology in Australia. And after growing up in an Asian country I must say there is a huge stigma associated with “depression”. Asian countries in general don’t seem to have a firm grasp or understanding on what a “mental disease” is yet. They have top surgeons and doctors who can treat physical diseases but as far as mental illnesses go, there isn’t much support or understanding from the government, community, family of the patient or their peers. Why else is there a high ratio of suicides in Japan and Korea (to name a few countries)? The American Psychological Society recognises depression as a “mental illness” for a reason. I feel so frustrated when people say ignorant things like people who complete suicide are “weak”. Sure, it is their choice to end their life and theirs alone but the main symptom of depression is a feeling of helplessness and hopelessness. They feel that life is so bleak and meaningless to the point nothing can convince them otherwise. Also, a person who becomes depressed usually has a chemical imbalance in their brain (a lack of serotonin production) which means they can’t help but sink deeper into that melancholy state. That’s why we have “happy pills” for these patients. It’s to help them produce more of these “happy” hormones in their brain and not go over the edge. The pressures of today’s society means depression is being diagnosed more and more. In Western countries they deal with this by providing more support and more community awareness – so family members or friends can spot the symptoms of a suicidal tendencies in those dearest to them and encourage them to get help. Sadly, in most Asian countries the general view of people who commit suicide is still that they weren’t strong enough. Even among the more (Western) educated young Asians today there is little understanding of what depression really means perhaps due to the mindset that’s been ingrained into them by their parents. I for one hope none of you who called Lee Eun Ji “weak” for being depressed and committing suicide ever get depressed or suicidal yourself. Because then all you can expect is to “deal with it” and just get stronger.
oh my god i thought those only happen in movies… such tragedy. how can some people do that, for what? over a shallow thing such as the amusement to mere mortals. thats stupidity… no harm, but i understand “fans” but to act like selfish bitches doesn’t really prove anything. anyway i hope that they (suju fans) be disturbed for-life for what they did to that poor girl. it must have been hell what that poor girl went up to… and hey can i comment that really as human as suju fans can be, they acted like real life demons, very creepy…
korean fans are crazy
suju fans really passed the line. they are a bunch of little freaking immature OBSESSED kids. what are they thinking? “Oh I’m just one person giving her hate comments, it can’t be that bad.” .. ? its probably thousands of fans giving her stupidity. With their hate mails.. and because .. why again? Why did they give her hate mails again? I bet they don’t even know the freaking reason why. damnnit those fans. Those fans are giving other people a hard time and Suju a hard time too. Someone should send those so called “fans” to therapy or boot camp or something. Because it seems like its never ending for these losers. Seriously. Giving hate mails? how low can you go?! apparently SUJU fans can dig lower than that. I really want to slap them for their stupidity. and theres another victim now.. I hope nothing happens to her.. just because immature people can’t control themselves. I feel really sorry for her. and Super Junior. I wonder how they put up with this kind of crap.
btw, someone tell me what elf means.
hmmm even though the ELVES say sorry a million times..
it wudnt bring back the innocent life thats wasted..
bcoz of their wickedness!
people like them are thrown to hell..
coz they shud know their limitations!!!!
hope they learn their lessons well…
wow Eun ji is pretty and I bet that SJ wished they could do something and probably wanted to but couldn’t I find that unfair if they weren’t able to. The company C.E.O himself should realize how serious this matter had gotten since it involved one of his performers does he not care?? Is the only thing he cares so much for money and fame??? LSM should be ashamed of himself. I really like KangIn and to see the situation involve him makes me sick to my stomach i really don’t like when bad things happen to such good people in this case SJ and i agree with the above comment by Yoomi23 “even though the ELVES say sorry a million times.. it wudnt bring back the innocent life thats wasted”
Only a short while before this happened, I was watching that particular weekly Star King episode, and wondered if I too could lose at least 1/2 of the weight she lost- basically, I was in awe of her. Losing 88 pounds (40 kgs = 88 lbs) in 3 months was rather inspiring.
Man… it’s been a while, but everytime I come across this, I start crying for her. I f-ing hate how it takes a death for those f-ed up fans to apologize for the terrorizing.
I don’t understand why the police didn’t come in and do something. These days with amazing technology, it’s possible to track down someone who leaves blackmail via phone or internet. Just find and fine/imprison a few of the severest attackers, which should scare the rest into silence and halt their activity. But then again… maybe it’s different from America…
I’m also a Suju/DBSK fan, but I just CAN’T BELIEVE those stupid, retarded people who sent hate mail to the poor girl.
But the thing is, maybe some of the Suju members could’ve attended her funeral, but they were upset too. You can’t expect everything from them — it’s their choice.
…But it’s not the fan’s choice to send hate mail to the poor girl, I will beat the crud out of them.
oh jesus O_O
Personally…
i understand that if SuJu couldn’t do anything cuz of company difficulties; but SM entertainment company CANT let this go unnoticed! at least write a letter or SOMeTHING!
and these so called “elves” and their apology? they are nothing but bullies! they deserved to b tortured! cuz a damn apology wont bring a dead person to life! a apology wont let the girl’s family get her back! a apology is meaningless in this situation! cuz these elves ARENT stopping! they are STILL attacking other SuJu fans and female stars! for example: KIM YUNA; the figure skater in Korea! just cuz she and leeteuk were about to build up a friendship and nothing more! The elves started attacking her! OVER 2,000 HATEFUL COMMENTS!
in chinese we call this SEI SING BUHT GOI! meaning THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO CHANGE! i’d like to meet these elves. ill give them a fight that they never experienced before!
and i dont mean no harm to SuJu. I just despise ppl who are being such stupid idiotic bitches!
and AKA if Star King did at least SOMETHING about it! THEY GAVE HER A MOMENT OF SILENCE! and SM?! THEY DIDNT DO NUTHIN!
Now this will affect the number of ppl that are thinking of joining SM in becoming a singer or actor/actress! They dont think before they do. jerks…
why would they want to torture her its just a pic so what big deal even i am a suju fan doesn’t me i hate her they are just jealous what they did was a shocking thing and by the way yoonha should just accept the invitation and EeTeuk’s lying thing wasn’t his fault every suju fan that is in this mess should realize what they did too harsh! elf’s are friends to suju elf are just- just too much! why dont they just back off! it’s just a pic elf’s imagine if you have a pic with suju does it mean i have to kill you??? NO! Just be there if someone just attack suju suju will not be happy with this it effects all of the memebers if eunhyuk or your fave member of suju has a gf so what you will attack her? imagine eunhyuk has a gf ia m ok with it and you will attack suju’s gf suju will be angry at you so will other fans of the girl fs they are in a group they will be mad at you they will think it is suju’s fault realize what you are doing
yo! if they are so good at stalking, why dont they stalk the SUJU memebers instead of other fans, you know what? To all the suju fans that stalked her, you better never take a pic with any of the SUJU memebers. Even though i feel really sorry for her, I have to say that the cause she died for is pretty dumb. Who cares if they’re stalking you? When they call you, just tell the to SHUT THE FUCK UP! I DESERVED TO TAKE THAT PIC AFTER ALL THE WEIGHT I HAVE LOST FOR THEM >.< agen….R.I.P
and then agen……does anyone have that episode of STAR KING?
wow…those fans are f-ed up seriously…i’m one suju’s big fans (half-way to die-hard) but i would never do that to a poor girl, just for a picture. thinking bout all these crazy fans reminds me of epik high’s fan…ironic
omg…
Hey, Don’t kill me but i’m a super junior fan, HOWEVER even i think that was very scary
Elves are so fucking retarted. what if she was an elf too? she got to meet one of her idles and they go and hate on it? are you serious?! what if it was one of them. get a life dammit! she lost so much for her grandmother, and not her grandmother gets to bury her? isn’t it suppose to be the other way around?
so true penguin.. she worked so hard.. she deserved a good life.. but because of those psychotic fans..
i dont think its SuJu’s fault. some fans just gotta tone it down and not get over jealous
i feel so sorry for that girl who died~!!!
she lost 40 kg in 3 month!!! WOW~!!
she worked so hard to lose the weight~!!!
her granndmother would be sooo sad~!!!
i relly cant say its the kangin`s fault~!!
anyway sojus fan are tooo crazy about soju
they didnt have to send those messages to her~!!
Wow those retarded fans. I admit I’m a fan but I’m not one of the Elves. Those bitches obviously have some mental problem. They need to get over the fact that they will never meet Super Junior in real life, and if they did happen to meet them, Super Junior WON’T EVER FUCKING REMEMBER THEM OR WORSHIP THEM. Super Junior members are going to forget your name on their car ride home. So just get over it! You’re just wasting half of your life. Okay, SuJu takes pictures with everybody, why the fuck do you get mad? If you took a picture with them, you wouldn’t be mad, right? STFU. GET OVER IT. Killers.
FUCKING … prissy Korean anti-fans.
What these fans did was terrible, bullying someone to her death.
I don’t think that Lee Eun ji’s untimely death was for nothing because I’m sure that many people will learn from what happened in this situation and hopefully won’t cause anyone else to do the same thing.
I don’t know how the fans as individuals can live on knowing what they have done. Each one of them needs to take a look at herself and her behaviour and then change it.
As a group they were strong in pulling Lee Eun ji down but they should realise that any one of them could just as easily find the group turning on her, and what will they do then?
Bullying isn’t funny or clever, the guys in the group aren’t going to like you more because you’ve shown you’ll go to this length for them, in fact they may actually think worse of you for it perhaps considering you a psychotic freak with no grasp of reality.
But was it just about the photo or were the fans jealous that she lost weight as well whilst some of them are to lazy to do the same?
I’m a fan but i’m not one of the elves.
i think E.L.F. should spare her a life man..
She just suffer for 3 months just to lose weight..
If i was a e.l.f, i’ll ask them to stop.. sigh.
Elves need to control themselves.
It’s just taking a picture with idol.. what’s wrong.?
I wish those Elves burn in hell. I mean, how can someone get on with their lives after they’re responsible for taking a poor girl’s life? They ARE EVIL!!!!
Those fans need to grow up. Yeah fangirls have our moments with our daydream but come on. It’s great that you can dream but there is the real world out there. If your idol is in love with you, you would have been married or dating, but your not so WAKE UP !!!
May she rest in peace.
The power of the internet and words, the old saying goes the pen is mightier than the sword, these days it is the keyboard that is mightier than the sword.
This is sad and so messed up – what would happen next.
try to think!(imagine) if s0me0ne is jealous of u n ur girlfriend relationship(that pers0n likes you) n decided to send her horrible messages that caused her to end her life,will u be attending her cerem0ny while s0me pe0ple esp her family are blaming u for it? i know i wont!maybe a little bit after that or while no one was around or hide myself. and kangin is an idol if he attends of coz pe0ple will say that he’s not sincere and juz doin that for publicity and maybe get attacked by her family or friends! think for the consequences(maybe spell that wr0ng)and he must keep a smiling faces and not say anything that will spoil the mood of a show as he’s always in a happy-kind-of-mood-show as an idol!
no offence, but the “Elves” are gonna rot in hell
nothing more to say, they are f*cked up big time
it is wrong and although they said sorry, it will never bring her back
R.I.P, its alirhgt now.
I really horrible wut happened to Eun Ji Lee…
and no words or action can bring her back…
Yet unlike wut some ppl have posted, I think the apologies were necessary…
Not to bring her back, but to show some sympathy for the parents who had to see their daughter die before them.
Pointing fingers isn’t really the answer…
Wtvr Suju or sm would have done would have an scraped up an equal amount if not more collected criticism from popseoul, anti’s and media and so on and so forth…
My point is, what we should take from this…
Is what we shouldnt do from now on.
Blasting fans, singers, actors, people next to you, it’s gonna entertain some, on the other hand, there will be that one someone who will want to step off a roof.
While I’m at it…
Sometimes i think popseoul’s comments are really overdoing it…
Just reading your articales makes all Korean entertainment look just INCOMPETENT. How do you, sweety, think koreans will ever get break the stereotype and gain the “respect” Justin and Christina’s got, if you yourself don’t give it?
all of that because of a picture? Kang In is just a normal person jeez. Those SUJU fans are really scary. I mean, I am a SUJU fan also, but I wouldn’t hurt anyone else because of jealousy.