Oh my! What is the world coming to?
Another celebrity has decided to end her own life.
Choi Jin-shil was found dead in her home at 6:15am on October 2nd. Her body was discovered at 7:45 am. It was reported she hung herself with an elastic band tied to the shower stall in the bathroom.
The police are still investigating the cause of her death, however, many assume it is due to the fact that she loaned the late Ahn Jae Hwan $2.5 million USD and somehow contributed to his death. She vehemently denied these reports earlier but many assume the guilt may have tipped her over the edge.
She leaves behind 2 children.
Rest in Peace Choi Jin Shil and our condolences go out to her two children and ex-husband.
Why why why??? Didn’t she have 2 kids?
What a shame…RIP. This trend needs to stop.
booo
her poor kids… she should have thought of her kids
OMG. i was waiting for this post.
I am in uber shock. She’s choi jin sil, like every one’s favorite past time tv star!!!!! i remember watching her when i was younger. And her children are sooooooo adorable too.
WHYYYY!!!! T-T
R.I.P
I feel so bad for her kids..
I really liked her in “The Last Scandal” but now, I’m not sure if I can finish it! Another truly sad tragic loss in Korea and its entartainment industry.
Korea MUST do something to prevent suicide…
Rest in peace, Choi Jin Sil!
RIP Choi Jin Shil. I hope it wasn’t the rumors that pushed her over the edge. She seems like such a strong lady to me.
By the way,
POPSEOUL!!!! WHY THIS PICTURE!!!!!?!??!?
Choi Jin Sil is really pretty!!!
why is suicide so common in Korea and Japan?
Is it a trend?? If so, that’s really awful..
it must be he** for her children. Especially since they are gonna hear about it all around them.
popseoul you got your information all wrong.
someone spread RUMORS that she loaned AJH money and soon everyone started believing such rumors.. therefore she received many hated remarks. False info like yours led to her death.
omg…. i am sooo sad….how could this happen…I love her….I can’t believe it….Im so sad……she was an amazing actress….
FREAKIN RUMORS AND THE FREAKIN JUDGMENTAL NETIZENS! The paparazzi ought to feel guilty for putting her under all of that crap.
Rest in peace. I hope everyone learns a lesson from this.
Ex-husband?! Who’s going take care of her kids?!!
i agree with the comment above me.
theyre were rumors that she loaned him the money and that she was involved with “sah-chae” the korean term for loaning money from a bad place. idk how to explain it but u know in those dramas when they borrow money from gangs. yea that’s a sah-chae. and their were rumors that she was with the people who loans money that has a very high interest when loaning their money. she coudlnt take it anymore
so…
rest in peace choi jin shil. <3
we’ll miss you.
RIP…
another death. Tsk. Tsk.
OH my Gosh.. REST IN PEACE!!!
Gosh so many~
I don’t understand so many Korean public figures offing themselves. This kind of awful trend must be stopped. In my humble opinion, I think one of main contributors is lack of therapists in Seoul, or maybe there are but the negative stigma attached to it prevents people from seeing them. Look, I live in Beverly hills and I don’t know anyone who doesn’t see one. I’d imagine the suicide rate would be high here, too if not for therapists and antidepressants they prescribe. I’m against drugs but it beats offing oneself… And the next victim to be choi jinshil?!!? She was like jennifer aniston of our country!!!! RIP….
woooowwww! RIP… loved her in last scandal… what a lost..
another wasted life. she is such a good actress. rumors can be deadly. RIP
Can you please change the picture? It is kinda disturbing and she was really pretty… I know its a sad article and we get it w/o the hideous picture….
She was really pretty, I hope she rests in peace… My condolences to the family….
oh my..
shes the only person i know that has the same name as me, and shes DEAD now!! RIP
please change the picture. it’s disrespectful. she was the biggest star while i was growing up.. rip.
therapists for K-celebs NOW.
more support and compassion for everybody.
STOP spreading unsubstantiated rumors. don’t say JACKSH!T until something’s proven. don’t toy with people’s lives. you know it’s a pressure-cooker. any bad rep = bad image = falling popularity = lose jobs to your competition = jobless, “dead”.
netizens and irresponsible media WAKE UP NOW!
RIP choi jin-shil, a shining bright light dimmed too soon.
i’m heartbroken. she was a talented, beautiful woman who suffered too much in her life - an abusive husband, a painful and public custody battle, and now this.
고인의 명복을 빕니다.
Yes. CHANGE THE PICTURE - it’s exploitative and plain tacky.
She was a beautiful women and should be remembered better than this… Please.
omg you’ve got to be kidding me i love her!!!
why is suicide suddenly a trend??!?!?
RIP
She was found @ 6 and them at 7? w/e, not important. I doubt it was AJH that caused this; she must have been depressed for a long time about a lot of things to leave her kids like this. God bless them.
R.I.Pand change the picture..
ilovewg, can you explain some more about sa-chae? Is it like a loan shark?
And the rumor? Was she involved with the loaner or was she the loaner and getting all gangsta on ahn jaehean? If so, why would the bloggers even believe it considering everyone knew how close she was to him… ?
I hope bloggers all across Korea feel the guilt and become more responsible and think before spreading hurtful rumours.
It’s terrible terrible. My heart goes out to the kids. It seems like there’s too much pressure on the Korean stars. They are either killing themselves or collapsing from overwork. I think fans should leave them alone and let them have a lovelife and their privacy.
A trend in suicide? How old are some of you people? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of. The lady obviously had some serious issues she kept to herself, and she made the unfortunate but gut-wrenching decision to end her life on her own terms and her own will. I highly doubt she did it to be “trendy” or because it was really that easy of a way out. Killing yourself isn’t an easy way out, I don’t care what anyone says. It takes guts and in a sense a dreadful motivated bravery that leads a person to taking such a terrible plunge with their life.
It’s surprising and sad, but you guys need to stop it with the whole “trendy” thing and saying Korea should “do” something about suicides. A person who really wants to commit suicide will just do it, there’s nothing that will stop them. Everyone makes their own choice.
omg this is so shocking…. poor children!
oh.my.god. what is this world coming to? RIP and my condolences to the family. i hope the two kids feel better.
omg so many deaths in korea..i feel so bad for her kids. R.I.P
When most stars commit suicide, it’s usually due to decrease in popularity and depression, but I can tell in this case, it might be a different story…
I just feel so bad for her children.
help please clarify. did she loan money to or owed ahn jae hwan? the statement said she loaned 2.5 million and felt guilty contributing to ahn jae hwan’s death… coz of she loaned money its a different story.
@ mmkay
Yes, everyone makes their own choice, but you need to look into the problem when Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and they are notorious when it comes to celebrities.
It’s the hostile environment that has been made by the popular culture and the history of Korea. People are very insecure and with that, the country is a very close knitted community (thanks to internet) where a small mistake is magnified x100. Combine that with the ruthless and immature netizens/anti-cafes spreading false rumors (which the whole nation believe because Koreans can be so irrational sometimes) and making threats, it creates a ultra-competitive and stressful environment far from the norm.
The pressure among the Korean community of friends and families are beyond belief. There’s a reason why they wear such thick make-ups (and no make-up is considered so embarrassing), get plastic surgeries, wear brand name clothes, obsess over driving European cars, being tall, having a bf/gf, etc. It’s all about image and really portrays high school environment–A lot of pressure.
Unless you live in Korea, you can’t duplicate the hellish life they live in. Of course to them, it’s the norm. And it;s not because they are poor, it’s because of the irrational sense of pressure they society embeds as soon as you are born–just like how the Korean parents want you to be doctors and lawyers (so they can proudly brag to their friends/families).
This environment and this behavior is a national disease that is uniquely Korean.
RIP
My condolences to her children and family.
About her loaning money to Ahn Jae Hwan that was just a rumour.
@ hay hay:
I wouldn’t say it’s unique to Korea. It actually started in Japan.
The suicide strings of events were a big hit in Japan, before it was in Korea. It’s because the Korean society is very close to the Japanese one, in terms of having very high social pressures and being in an “extremely homogeneous” population. I usually notice that such trends usually leak from Japan to Korea in a very short amount of time (around a year or two or so).
Of course, the publicized media reports of suiciding stars has been everywhere, not just in Korea. A lot of American stars are known for having done so too.
Stars just have it a lot harder than us. A lot of you guys probably scoffed at or enjoyed Britney Spears’ paparazzi craze a while ago, and I did too, until I watched videos of her crying and begging to be left alone.
I mean, all of their actions are placed on a pedestal for everyone to judge and see. And to make it worse, not all of their attempts of fixing their mistakes get noticed or commended. It’s all about what fires up the gossip, and that just results in a lot of feelings being hurt for these stars. And the worst part is, they have a much harder time finding “true friends” who can really take in their hurts and not leak anything to the media.
@ Hay hay
“People are very insecure and with that, the country is a very close knitted community (thanks to internet) where a small mistake is magnified x100. Combine that with the ruthless and immature netizens/anti-cafes spreading false rumors (which the whole nation believe because Koreans can be so irrational sometimes) and making threats, it creates a ultra-competitive and stressful environment far from the norm.”
Right. And that sounds like any famous person anywhere who has to deal with the harsh reality of criticism when being famous. Whether it is Korea, the US, Japan, any where with a huge self-sustaining media multiplex.
What I’m annoyed by in this blog post and the comments made is the implied belief that Koreans are susceptible to “harsh” criticism and strenuous situations. That’s pure pablum. For all these people committing suicides because there was “NO WAY OUT”, there are many, MANY more (celebrities, businessman, common folk alike) who thrive and pick themselves back up.
I’m an older guy who’s had the pleasure of living a challenging life and learning to pick myself up from the valleys and troughs of life like many others before me and those who will continue to persevere after me. I’ve lived in Korea and the US, I know the difference in pressure from the two different cultural standpoints. I think Koreans (biased answer here, because I am Korean after all) are stronger mentally and they do just fine. You say there’s so much pressure among the Korean community of family and friends akin to a high school environment. Guess what, it’s not uniquely Korean. It happens in every facet of modern society no matter where you go. And frankly, I don’t see such pressure and drive as a bad thing, because once you get older you realize how much you regret your moments of mediocrity when you could’ve tried harder.
The environment and behavior is not a national disease, and it is not uniquely Korean. It is uniquely human, that we cause these “irrational” bouts of stress and pressure that force us to try harder, be a little better, to try to become that winner.
@ Izumi
Good point. Just so frustrated right now. I just wanna take away Korea’s internet rights for a long time–so that these pathetic elementary/middle school kids can dream of better things than literally everyone wanting to become a singer/actor/entertainer. Korea is just in an awkward period of old generation mixed with the new generation. The country has developed too fast in the past 40 years and there is this huge gap missing. Combine that with the unique personality of Koreans that have been shaped by their sad history of constant invasion, you have yourself some very unique group of people.
I’m gonna indulge myself with a 1/2 gallon of chocolate ice cream for a while.
geez come on ppl get it together!!!
R.I.P.
OH MAY GAWD~ IM SHOCKED…ah may she rest in peace…
R.I.P
really just change the picture…please.
ERRATUM: “my condolences to her and her family”
~you don’t condole the person who passed. you condole the family left behind.
RIP.
I have no clue who she is, but I hope she is in a better place now. I cannot imagine how terrible she must have felt since it does seem like she felt guilty for the man’s suicide/murder(?). It is a shame that she had to take this road and leave behind her husband and children.
WTF popseoul. do not state it as a FACT when u dont know anything about it. that was a rumor that eventually pushed choi jin shil to suicide, so don’t just state words like that a matter of factually unless u know exactly.
@ mmkay
You’re right. I’ve said some weird things out of anger and frustration. I lived in Korea for 8 years and I just feel that Korea is so unique and different from other countries (except Japan) because it feels like you are literally living in high school. Every where you go, you are judged by what college you graduated from, how tall or good looking you are, what car you drive, if you have a small face that fits behind a CD, a V-line, S-line, etc. The moment you wake up, it’s a competitive environment where you have to look your best before going outside because God forbid Neng-face. This happens everywhere, but the intensity of it is strangely strong in Korea. Students study for 20 hours a day, yet they must make room to know all about the latest trend, celebrity news, tv shows, etc. And of course, if you can’t do the TELL ME dance, you’re wang-dda’ed. It’s not like that here in the States. Sure, it’s a different type of pressure, but no where near of that in Korea. I just hope this is a trend and they’ll grow out of it and think back how stupid it was to think that height is the most important factor women look for in a future spouse (serious. this is the general consensus)…I just hope for the best.
TIFFANY: she was the lead in “a rosy life”
~ funny how the story actually/somehow reflected her personal life battles..only that in the mini-series, she died of cancer.
I verry verry sad when receive imformatione.
I like her so much..But from now i will not see her in film.
She is beautiful women - successful but unhappy
Pls..sleep long time…CHOI JIN SI
You will happy more in paradise.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! This is such sad news!!!! I feel so bad for her children. First, they are the innocent victims to a very messy divorce. Then, their mom dies. Usually people take strength from their kids because they can’t even imagine leaving them alone. Plus, the amount of trauma these kids have experienced at such a young and impressionable age is so depressing. I’m crying thinking about her kids…..
this depressing…i never heard of her…but knowing many celebrities dying so close is like there seems no break… this is just sad…condolences to the family…
I remember the drama she was in with Choi Su Jong in the 90’s called “Jealousy” or “질투”
It seemed so cool back then since it focused alot more on young people’s lives.
She was a great actress who had enough drama in her life to write more than a few books about.
From what they are reporting, it seems that she fought a lengthy battle with anxiety and depression–for several years. It seems she was taking medication for these conditions.
It seems that her condition worsened after the recent death of Ahn.And as anyone can imagine, to have such vile, false rumors (BTW they caught the woman who spread those false rumors) on top of everything must have been overwhelming–for anyone.
I’m not sure that everyone understands what these false rumors implied.By someone making the false accusation that she was responsible for giving a loan to Ahn and then having “loan sharks” (akin to the mob or gangsters in Korea) go after (intimidate, threaten etc.) Ahn to get her money repaid, it implies that she drove Ahn to kill himself.
In short, she was being accused of being responsible for her friend’s husband’s death.
Now, that I think more people can relate to this as far as the level of seriousness and the maliciousness of the false rumors she was facing.
There are also rumors that she may have been drunk when it happened.
Also, I do not think any one who is thinking with a clear head,a stable emotional state, and is thinking logically would attempt suicide when they have 2 young children they love.
It is obvious that her judgement and thinking were clouded and impeded by any of the factors above, not to mention her mental illnesses she was struggling with.
As far as suicide in South Korea, I think there definitely is a need to improve awareness and the mental health system in Korea.
I do think that the culture of competitiveness adds to the stress and anxiety level in Koreans.
One thing that Japan and Korea have in common is the very, very long work hours which is a definite stressor.
Also, kids go to school more days out of the year, the also have to go to hagwon after school and come home after 10PM or later in gradeschool!?!
It is unheard of in the U.S.
It’s not because one group of people are “weaker” or made up differently.
There’s no “suicide gene.”
You place any human being under the same conditions and you will get similar behavior.
Choi Jin Sil, RIP and may your children stay safe and well- cared for.
OMG! WHAT!!?? I’m in complete shock right now….why???? why do they resort to suicide?? this is absolutely crazy. She was one of my favorite actresses in Last Scandal and i loved that drama. My god…i dont even know what to think. I cant believe she committed suicide, and left behind two children. oh man i feel soooo bad for them!! strange how its related to Ahn Jae hwan too. Gosh i realy hope this doesn’t happen again. Three deaths within what..like three months of each other?!
Wow, reading the post from Compassion clears somethings. so she was dealing with depression huh? I feel bad for her. RIP Choi Jin Shil! I will truly miss you! rest in peace..
Awww.. R.I.P
Such Shocking News….
she is stupid for committing suicide! she is selfish and self centered…she has two kids and her parents and brother… how can she do that…….. if she thought about them she wouldnt have done what she did…. i feel sorry for those kids!!
@ mi
you should be ashamed of yourself calling a dead person stupid…netizens like you are the ones that probably help drive people to such acts….its going to be an never ending cycle
I just cant help but thinking of her poor children. To be left behind by a mother who went all out to snatch their custody, yet contradictingly abandoned by her again, this time forever and ever. How sad. It really is. How can Choi Jin Sil ever go in peace with the thought of leaving her children to the care of an abusive husband who is obviously violent??! How can she do that? Its worrying! THink abusive father.
@Tasha
And you should probably be ashamed at your own lacking ability of intellectual thought for thinking that mean words on there internet is anywhere near a valid reason for someone, famous or not, to commit suicide. I’m sure there ARE people out there who do commit suicide for that very reason, but trust me, the world is a whole lot better off with someone that pitifully weak (this is why we still have a world that functions, not some fairytale utopia). There are plenty of popularized suicides in general are the result of something far beyond petty image and shame. It’s obvious even with rumors and speculation abound that the actress in question decided to end her life over reasons BEYOND what people knew of her in general.
And besides, Mi is right. She is a selfish person who left behind two kids who have to deal with this tragedy. I qualify that as being stupid and self-centered.
haaa~ why are these celebs killing themselves? they should first consider of whats gonna happen to the people they left behind. make the most of your life. may you Rest in Peace Choi Jin Shil
@orly and mi
Stupidity can be overcome by gaining knowledge and enlightenment.
Compassion and sensitivity cannot be learned in the same way… unfortunately for the two of you.
Mind your manners.Have some common sense.
Someone has died.
Someone’s mother,sister,friend,daughter has died.
No matter how the life ended…
@ Orly
Yea you know her well…her act may be selfish but that doesnt make her stupid or selfish asshole. I am not saying that it is right but at least be sympathetic. What is your point of ranting on and on how stupid her ACT was and acting like you know her calling her overall selfish and stupid person. Your lack of sympathy and intelligence makes u a cold person…pat yourself on the back why dont you..Does it feel that nice to bash an dead person…I’m glad…ugh..disgusting.
Yea I bet her mother and brother gnna hug you for calling her stupid and selfish….disgusting..I dont care if my family member commits suicide…I be damned if I let some stupid netizen call them stupid and selfish..
another suicide..it looks like korean artistes do not know how to handle netizen remarks and rumours, they always think negatively.. R.I.P
Koreans really need to pull themselves out of the dark hole of being the country with the highest suicide rate.
Don’t stars think about the negative impact they bring about on the public? They are stars, meaning that they have a certain standing within the community. Being in that position means that they hold a certain responsibility to the public. If they continue solving their problems by killing themselves, what would the rest of the people do?
I feel awful about how one death leads to another, and the true victims of all this are the young kids left motherless now.
people need god in their lives. fame, fortune, whatever it may be, means nothing without the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. that is what Korea needs more of in these decrepit times. god be with her children and fam.ily
kudos to Compassion’s posts.
more constructive, understanding, and open-minded writing like those, and we’re on our way to a less hostile online world. our offline reality will be happier for it too.
RIP Choi Jin Sil
It would be nice if Popseoul would change her picture with a happy one. We don’t wanna remember her in that picture. Show a little bit of respect, Please.. Thank you.
RIP…
and may her kids grieve in peace.
change the picture. please.
Poor kids..
So many suicides in Korean entertainment world. Is it really that depressing?
R.I.P Choi Jin Sil. You were so beautiful in every aspect.
This is just so, so sad.
She was a talented beautiful actress with a great career. The picture posted above don’t do her justice. So sad to see her leave this world this early in this fashion. CJS will be dearly missed. RIP~
@ Compassion
I find it astounding that you think that my lack of compassion(which I will refute later) equates to my lack of common sense. You’re right though that I lack sensitivity, and my integrity over the years has reinforced this in reminding me “hey, I really don’t care what happened to [insert stranger] that I read or heard about”. Thank you for pummeling your own ethics and code of human conduct into this, and judging it upon my own. I was replying to Tasha and her high-brow deluded opinion that internet insults are enough to drive a person to suicide, which I find detestable and an insult to mankind in general. I was reinforcing Mi’s opinion that leaving behind a grieving family leaves a burden on everyone but herself. That is by definition, SELFISH. I don’t need to know her personally nor do any of you to come to that conclusion. Perhaps my accusation of her being dumb was harsh, but that is inherently my own ethically arguable view of it that I can admit is not an absolutely correct one.
My common sense and the manners upon which I live by tells me that while I feel sorry for this lady, it won’t nor will I let it affect me or influence others into thinking that what she did should be even remotely consolable. She’s just another person who committed suicide in this world. I sure as hell am telling my kids that such a path is unacceptable and that it’ll result in you going to hell. The thing that I really have compassion for is when I think about her last moments when she must’ve steeled herself. The sheer willpower and resolve she must’ve bottled up in her to escape from the problems of her life. I won’t pretend to be all sad and say Choi Jin Shil’s death is gonna move me and affect even the slightest of my daily activities tomorrow, but I liked her enough as an actress from her earliest days that I give a whit to imagine her as something more than a stranger I read about in the newspaper. That’s my compassion. It’s different and morbid and not as cuddly as what some of you folks may envision, but it is what it is for me.
@ Tasha
You say yeah her act may be selfish but that doesn’t make her selfish? Did I miss something there? While I admitted above calling her stupid is an opinion formed from my own set of ethical beliefs and standards (and apparently Mi’s), her being selfish is irrefutably true as a result of her actions, unless her family is somehow cheering over her death (I’m only proving a point here, not defaming the subject).
My original point in my rant above was to YOU. I think the notion that people are so weak and fragile mentally that they would commit suicide over internet meanness is ludicrous and one that should be harpooned and criticized and nipped in the damn bud as to not plague the general public. Do you sympathize with every death you read or hear about? Do you make an effort to reach out and console their family members? Do you go out and make a difference to prevent deaths of some sort happening? Are you flying around in a cape and fighting evil on every corner? I can go on and on with this to vary differing levels of what a person must do or not do to be a cold person. For you, my lack of sympathy and intelligence makes me a cold person. I couldn’t care less if you think that makes me cold, cause it’s such an illogically flawed and fallible sense of judgment.
And let me say something else. If one of your family members committed suicide and it was in an obituary, someone out there reading will criticize you and then some. What can you do about it? Nothing. It is what it is. Grieve, live on, MOVE ON.
Having lived in America and Europe for the majority of my life and having spent the past few years living in Korea, I can echo the above comments that daily life in Korea is a pressure that cannot be compared to anywhere else I have every been. It’s incredibly sad.
RIP
She will be missed terribly.
(you should atleast have chosen a nice picture of her….)
This is very sad news. I was rooting for her because she survived a brutal abusive marriage & the custody battle.
R.I.P
First of all you are crazy because you are incapable of comprehending of what I said to Mi. I said that her comments as such is WHAT may have driven to her suicide…I did not say that it was the cause…so you’re whole argument of me saying that the internet caused her came from your condulated mind of sickness…of course there is nothing I can do about it…and yes….I sympathize and grieve about every death I hear about..it’s too bad that the media has desensitized some narrow minded people like you to not feel anything when you hear about death. You are a cold disgusting person…and of course um uneducated….there is a difference between a person acting selfish and being an overall selfish person. For example, I can commit a selfish act by cutting in line to get some food first…..but I may commit many acts of kindness that may generalize me to being a kind person. You sin everyday…you make mistakes everyday…but I’m sure that you are not defined by those mistakes and sin. That is exactly what you are doing. You are defining by her act….but yet you don’t know her…I may not be able to console her family because I am in a another country..but I’m not sitting behind a computer and calling someone’s daughter and sister selfish.
I am also praying for her family…and to God and especially to me…counts for something…I guess I’m doing more than you typing away to justify your really obscene and cruel comments..
Tasha, great comments.
As for the snide remarks, even you don’t sympathize the suicide victim, you seem to care enough to make comments about the person.
*if you don’t sympathize with the suicide victim
Condolence…
i am so sad about the news.. I pray for all the deppressed Korean stars.. They seem to have a happy life, i didn’t expect that in this kind of way she will end her life…
@ Tasha
“netizens like you are the ones that probably help drive people to such acts….its going to be an never ending cycle”
And I responded on what you MAY have perpetuated that criticism of people need to be somehow stopped and that it contributes to the death of a person. I was refuting that the notion or even general ambiguity of an assertion is a negative one that implicates a petty weakness. Wow. I unfortunately inflamed this and inappropriately flung an ad hominem attack on your intellect with my older posts. But my criticism of your idea is still intact.
I’m plenty sure you sympathize and grieve about every death you hear about. That’s fine. How you label me as a cold and disgusting person is so fallible in the relativity of what defines a “cold and disgusting person” is what I argued about earlier. You praying to God for yourself and Choi Jin Shil is good. Perhaps someone out there thinks you can do more. And more. And more. By their definition, you are cold and uncaring for not doing such. Get my point? You saying I am cold and disgusting because of my lack of interest or action is absurd. The general media desensitizing a narrow minded person like me is a convincing argument, but my desensitization came from years of just living life in general. Surrounded by generally good people, who’ve helped me help myself. I can pull out the red-herring trick and go on a tirade of my experiences and deeds in life that I believe justify my worth in society and my attitude, but I won’t because it’s just showboating. And we’ve already delved into the internet argument arena headbashing here.
And your example that you can commit a selfish act and make up for it by doing kind things generalizes you into a kind person is another logical fallacy and twisting integrity at best. It may not seem like much, right? But according to the way you put it, I can go out murder one person and then go out and save 10 others and I am generally not a murderer. Huh? Now I ain’t preaching self-perfection here. By this, I know I’m a constantly flawed person who succumbs to sin. Hence a bedrock principle of Christian society, where we constantly pray and believe our sins be forgiven as we live despite our “best” efforts. You do something, you are defined by it. Even if it’s one time. It’s called accountability, and you admit your own faults. Guess what, you cutting in line made you a selfish person to all the other people who saw you. Whether they know or didn’t know you did all sorts of kind things to make of for it is moot, because YOU DID THE DEED IN THE END.
By the way, you keep saying I make obscene and cruel comments. Yet I’ve refrained from cursing (unless damn counts? I guess that’s my one right there) and haven’t made anywhere near the character attacks you have. Highlight, right click, and copy this word to search for it on the dictionary: HYPOCRITE
Hey..I will highlight and right click and copy that word hypocrite…
after you highlight and right click and copy this word
LOSER
and I didn’t read all that….I just read the last part…and the only hypocrite is you…you attacked me first and called someone selfish and stupid…but yet I call you cruel and disgusting…you get defensive and write 10 page essays that no one and especially me is not going to read…
@ sigh: very well argued.
re: the photo, i like it, i think it shows her in a less than ideal light (ie. a real light) as opposed to a perfectly styled starlet. it conveys the tone and theme of the article well.
MOVE ON!!!!
“and I didn’t read all that”
QED
LMAO!!!!! these blogs are funny..I knew that there would be that one person who is going to write something mean and start something….
RIP Cho Jin Sil!!! I LOVE You!!! I remember when you were in the drama star in my heart…does anyone else remember tat??? the show with ahn jae wook…omg i loved her in there…sighs….along with couple of other shows…..I Pray that her family and friends will cope through this!
that’s sad… rest in peace…
Change the picture… seriously. Theres a limit, its a sad story but you don’t have to use the worst picture you can find of her.
RIP.
May she rest in peace…
aww.. what’s goin on now? errr. RIP.
why? she should have thought of her kids, friends and family. sure, it’s a burden to be linked to someone else’s suicide. but why make up for it with your own death? RIP
RIP
really pity her kids. what will be of them? ):
so many deaths this year… really sad.
this is terrible news … choi jin shil was almost an icon of the korean entertainment industry. pray for her kids and family.
This is the first thing I saw otday when I opened my comp…so sad
r.i.p
change the pic
Popseoul,
Show better respect! She has better pictures!!!
We all realize that there will be people who will criticize the actions of those who have made decisions that we do not judge to be right.
But, it does not mean that you have to write them down and post a comment about your opinion or critcism about it.
That is where you should have some compassion and sensitivity.
That is where you should demonstrate some common sense.
In general and in real life, no one cares for your opinion, critique,or judgement after someone you know commits suicide.
Is that not up to a higher power in many religions?
If you are not someone who would go to a memorial for someone who has just died and start verbally criticizing that dead person to the people who came to the memorial.
Then you should also refrain from doing the same here.
It does not make it any different because you can’t see our faces.
Even though many of her fans never met her and never will, many fans will mourn the same way as if they lost a friend.
How do you discover someone’s body 1 hour and 30 minuts after you found them dead?
She was found dead in her home at 6:15am on October 2nd, yet her body was discovered at 7:45 am? A little time discrepancy here!
RIP…
It’s funny to see people make everything about themselves, even in a time like this. (People arguing about nothing)
Sorry, I am pro-paparazzi. But they should look for other angles, it could be some non entities and some “korean elite untouchables just like what’s happenning to the agendas of ptb loan sharks in wall street” that lead her to this not some paparazzi frame ups lame blame game. Anyway rest in peace to Choi Jin Sil, the Maggie Cheung of South Korea for me. She doesn’t deserve this even those people in the lowest level of economy in any country.====To be continued====….
rest in peace
why are there so many korean celeb commits suicide??
o__O rest in peace~
can y’all stop trying to justify yourselves? geez, don’t you think it’s kind of sad that you keep coming back to this site like every few seconds? its your opinion alone. let ppl disagree or agree. it’s not a freaking preaching place that you’re trying to “evangelize” and convert people’s thoughts. plus, someone has passed away. give some respect. it’s not your spotlight.
choi jin shil was definitely one of my favorite actresses and out of all the suicides, this one hit me the hardest….second being jung dabin…
i hope her family will recover soon..
i felt so sorry for poor little two kids,their parents didnt have a happy marriage, and then now they have to bear the loss of their mother. it’s a tragedy..it’s a big lost for movie industry also..looking back at Choi Jin Sil’s life, i guess it was more sadness and depresses and tears than happiness and smiles.. RIP Choi Jin Sil..seriously, rumors are way too f**king scary in Korea
omg what the hell is going on with these celebrities.
RIP
I hope her kids are ok… and yeah… i feel sorry for them.
RIP
i don’t think it’s the same everywhere. koreans in particular are really more susceptible to criticisms, coz they really mind about people’s opinions about them. i’m studying part time korean in the university and even my textbook says that koreans care about people’s opinions alot and what others think about them. i went to korea sometime this year, and the tour guide also told us that koreans mind alot about appearance, so you see well dressed people everywhere, like someone said they think being seen w/o makeup is embarrassing. so they’ll spend their salaries buying clothes and making themselves pretty, but will scrimp and save on food. they’re also people with high insecurities therefore if you speak to them in english and they don’t know how to answer, they’ll get very angry. and if they knock onto you on the streets, they’ll probably just walk away and not apologize, coz to them, its just difficult to say sorry.
so my two cents is, its just not the same everywhere. koreans (and maybe japanese) are brought up like that, therefore they’re like that.
auhapjsdnc wtf
this is insane - what is happening to Korean celebs??
her poor children
She was found dead in her home at 6:15am on October 2nd, yet her body was discovered at 7:45 am? A little time discrepancy here!
there’s a lot of things that could have happened, but her mother found her body, was shocked, call his brother and waited for him to come before they called the police, which is the reason for the gap.
Imagine the shock and pain they both went through
1) RIP Choi Jin Shil…
2) To the children of Choi Jin Shil, hope both of them will be well-taken care of..
3) To the Korean netizens!!!!! Stop your accusation if you do not have evidences that whatever you have said is true…
4) To the Korean media/paparazzi!!!!! if you do not have evidences to back up what you are going to print, please do not report on it!!!!!!! If you think what you are going to comments/print or post are true, then be prepared to release the name of the person who gave you all these info.. If they are daring enough to give these so-called insider news/info, then they should not be afraid that their names be printed.
For those who are not aware, it was reported in my country’s online news that a 25years old korean lady was questioned by the police who was known to be the 1 spreading the rumours that CJS was a moneylender and the cause of Ahn Jae Hwan’s death. The article also states that this lady apologized to CJS a day before she committed suicide…… How true is this, i’m not sure, but if you understand chinese, you can read it at http://www.xin.sg/article.php?article=24129
Wow, I cannot believe that such a talented, beautiful actress with so much potential to leave more of a mark on this world has chosen to leave it so soon. It is a scary thing, how depression can leave someone so hopeless and desperate that she can find no other way out but to take her own life. What this world really needs is compassion. Yes, the computer creates a sense of anonymity, and many post comments without thinking of the effects they can have on others. Let’s not take this as a joke. Words do matter, and words do hurt. If we brush this off as an isolated incident, people will continue to self-destruct. I truly feel for her and her family and friends. May she rest in peace…
OMG I HATE THIS TREND!!!
T.T
R.I.P CJS
wow…..again? This is so sad. Her poor children!
Pretty soon popseoul’s going to have to add a category just for suicides.
It’s in PerezHilton.com > Link
shocking!!!
wow.. i can’t believe she’s gone! the first drama i ever watched was “star in my heart” and i loved choi jin shil’s character! how crazy the world is..=(
RIP
ahh! not another one :’(
i really hope she r.i.p
RIP. Hopefully the kids will be alright.
P.S. Popseoul - “Choi Jin-shil was found dead in her home at 6:15am on October 2nd. Her body was discovered at 7:45 am”. Huh??? If her body was discovered only at 7:45am, how did they find her dead at 6:15am???!!!
is she from rosy life ? betsy?
“It’s in PerezHilton.com > Link”
I don’t understand… First WonderGirls, then Hyori..
Now, Choi Jin Sil?
Not to sound disrespectful to her, but since when PerezHilton reports news about a Korean celebrity?
Did he really get struck by the Hallyu storm?
Perez should not be covering this.
This is so tragic. I don’t know what to say. I hope someone is there for her children and family.
“For those who are not aware, it was reported in my country’s online news that a 25years old korean lady was questioned by the police who was known to be the 1 spreading the rumours that CJS was a moneylender and the cause of Ahn Jae Hwan’s death.”
oh no I hope this was not the reason she committed suicide but nonetheless it is a tragedy. That 25 year old lady should be put in jail for spreading lies and defaming people’s character. Nevertheless these issues such as loan sharks and gangstas need to be addressed in the Korean media. If you think the TRIADS are bad think again.
what the???? she was in an abusive relationship and fought to get her kids out of it. She had the biggest comeback and now what????
how can you be found dead one time, and then have your body discovered some time later? . . .
RIP.
I think Perez Hilton is covering Kpop because he wants many visitors to his site. And we Asians are superstars when it comes to the internet. Ever heard of Asian youtuble celebrities like that adorable Kevjumba? Remember when Asian netizens put Rain on Time magazine? So don’t fall into his trap. PH is going for the numbers. Or maybe he does like Kpop! Like the rest of us.
ㅜㅜ 믿어지지않네요..
삼가고인의명복을빕니다…
Why shouldn’t PerezHilton cover it? It was also on Seattletimes.com of all places!
i for one am utterly surprise by this sudden news … plus im just now watching her drama my rosy life which is sooooo sooooo soooo sad … RIP
It’s not a “trend.” Please don’t say that when nobody knows the inside details. They don’t WANT to set a “suicide trend”, are you kidding me? There are probably stories that nobody knows of so we shouldn’t be all “OH THEY’RE ALL SETTING A TREND IN KOREA”. stop it, that’s nonsense. RIP — there could have been other ways.
@ MMKay
It’s horrible to assume that anyone would commit suicide to be “trendy”, but I have noticed that a lot of S.Korean celebrities succumb to suicide. This is where that word “trendy” comes from.
As far as “getting back on the horse”, good for you.