Girls Generation are the only smart ones


With the “comeback” (and I use the term loosely, considering some of the groups never left) of several artists this month (ie; Rain, Wondergirls, DBSK and Big Bang), Girls Generation seems to be the only smart ones, holding out till November.

But they won’t be sitting around waiting till then.

The overly-populated girl group will be starring on M.Net’s new reality TV show entitled, “Factory Girl.” A sort-of reality version of the American book-based film, “The Devil Wears Prada.” The girls will work for Elle Girl Magazine (Korea) as editors.

Director in charge Kwon Young Chan stated the obvious by saying the show will be a “program combining reality, trends and celebrity.” I’m not sure what else it could possibly be.

“Factory Girl” will air October 8th at 6pm Korea time.

152 Responses to “Girls Generation are the only smart ones”


  1. 1 Jen October 7, 2008 at 7:45 am

    they are smart… who can compete w/ dbsk.

  2. 2 lala October 7, 2008 at 7:50 am

    loves it

  3. 3 amy October 7, 2008 at 8:05 am

    haha i cant wait (:

  4. 4 ffff October 7, 2008 at 8:05 am

    Haha, true, alot of great singers would be hard to compete with.

  5. 5 Joongie's_lover October 7, 2008 at 8:10 am

    @Jen: haha, r u kidding me??? There’s no way SNSD can be compared to DBSK. =)) DBSK is sooooo much better than SNSD though! lol~ seriously laughing at ur comment

  6. 6 AntiSNSD October 7, 2008 at 8:13 am

    DBSK IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SNSD.

  7. 7 angelfish09 October 7, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Hehe, stop hatin on the girls.
    I can’t wait till the girls comeback, it’s gonna be exciting!

  8. 8 Yeah October 7, 2008 at 8:18 am

    I think it’s a bad time for Wonder Girls to have their comebacks… since they have to go up against DBSG.

  9. 9 Chunee October 7, 2008 at 8:23 am

    Well considering SNSD’s comeback isn’t until November, doesn’t that mean that they have less time to promote for an event like MKMF?

  10. 10 guava October 7, 2008 at 8:25 am

    ahaaa tvxq is much loved on snsd post hehe.

    idc much for these girls…but her yellow hightops….i wants them….<3

  11. 11 amanda October 7, 2008 at 8:31 am

    Considering them and dbsk are both under SM Entertainment why would they put them up against each other when they can wait till later and get as much money as possible of of each

    ..honestly who they hell can realistically beat dbsk. I mean 300,000 pre orders?! thats way more that most albums sell period.

  12. 12 kriza09 October 7, 2008 at 8:32 am

    What does it mean “they’re smart”??? I mean, why would Lee Soo Man make both of his groups fight each other? He IS smart..

  13. 13 yesss October 7, 2008 at 8:36 am

    tippany!!! <333333333

  14. 14 >_> October 7, 2008 at 8:40 am

    ew

  15. 15 sweetsorrow October 7, 2008 at 8:42 am

    i hope they know Big Bang is releasing a full korean album in November…maybe is wasn’t such a smart idea after all lol

  16. 16 SNSD_sucks October 7, 2008 at 9:11 am

    i know this is gonna sound really mean, but it’s
    what i feel and i just have to say it. i don’t care
    if people yell at me or w/e…
    i hope they fail. end of story. SNSD has left such a bad
    impression on me. after all the chaos and apologizing, they
    manage to bring more chaos thanks to tiffany. giggling at
    the earthquake that happened in china. i was once a fan.
    but not anymore and never will be. big bang will beat them.
    since big bang is releasing their first album and that will
    totally crush SNSD. for sure.

  17. 17 boldstripes October 7, 2008 at 9:13 am

    lol poor Elle Girl, they’re gonna have a hard time dealing with those 9 cheerleaders…lol and it’s not that they’re smart, it’s another strategy set by the father SM…ah that money minded boss…

  18. 18 hay hay October 7, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Girl’s Generation/SNSD and “smart” should never be used in the same sentence. I honestly think Tiffany suffers from cerebral palsy.

  19. 19 eliza October 7, 2008 at 9:20 am

    SNSD_sucks: The girl obviously wasn’t giggling at the thousands of lives lost in the Chinese earthquake–she fumbled the name of the province and it came out sounding like a celebrity’s name. I don’t see how you can confuse “laughing at her own mistake” with “laughing at the deaths of thousands.” Only an idiot would confuse the two, quite frankly. I’m not a huge SNSD fan and I think their music is kind of lame, but the true nastiness of females comes out when they are brought up. The immaturity, stupidity, and ignorance spewed by so many girls is disgusting.

    Anyway, smart move by SM! More money for the big man.

  20. 20 honey October 7, 2008 at 9:21 am

    i feel sorry for the actually talented and well-mannered snsd members…the group could really do without some, like TIFFANY. but now that i think about it, i feel sorry for tiffany too, cus she has so many antifans now.

  21. 21 noone October 7, 2008 at 9:23 am

    i LOVVVEEE snsd!!!!! yes!!! i can’t wait for their comeback!!!

  22. 22 yesss October 7, 2008 at 9:23 am

    amen eliza. amen.

  23. 23 bubbles October 7, 2008 at 9:45 am

    first time they ever did anything smart.. they would’ve been so embarrassed to comeback with the recent comebacks.. especially since everybody would get cheered on and them….
    good luck on their impeding success/failure…leave the drama at house and u won’t be bothered… PEACE & LOVE YO!! lol

  24. 24 Sunny October 7, 2008 at 9:45 am

    Hm, I don’t know…Big Bang is “coming back” in November, too, with their first full-length album since the one they released in 2007.

    And why do people always have to hate when they’re mentioned. And then not talk about the article at all? =w=;; I’m not a fan of them myself (actually can only stand a couple), but this is ridiculous.

  25. 25 deathbylogic October 7, 2008 at 9:46 am

    for those who wish tiffany or any of the members to be dead or have cerebral palsy or whatever, just remember, what goes around comes around.

    if you happily wish for some things to happen, rest assure it will happen. but not to others. it will happen to you.

    may God bring you back to the right path. and i sincerely pray for that.

  26. 26 .... October 7, 2008 at 9:46 am

    how’s it smart? yg’s new girl group is coming out and bb! they’ll be crushed!

  27. 27 deathbylogic October 7, 2008 at 9:48 am

    and those who said they didn’t want to compete with DBSK, of course they won’t. they have RESPECT for their sunbaes.

    TSK. how stupid can you all be?

    first you say they have no respect. now you say they’re just cowards because they are actually giving respect to their sunbaes by giving them the limelight they deserve after going on a hiatus in korea for so long?

    MORONS!

  28. 28 bubbles October 7, 2008 at 9:49 am

    eww i got infected by their stupidity…ahem..leave the drama at home ladies… we have had enough… people keep being civil towards them, if you don’t feel like hitting your hands together when they perform in front of you, u don’t have to.. as long as u keep it clean…

  29. 29 deathbylogic October 7, 2008 at 9:49 am

    and how is it that i vividly remember both SNSD and BB were promoting songs last year and yet, both groups still fared well?

    WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO CRUSH WHO? WHO WILL EVER CRUSH WHO?

    idiots.

  30. 30 deathbylogic October 7, 2008 at 9:50 am

    with a nickname like bubbles, i’m pretty darn sure you’re an airhead yourself.

  31. 31 wondergirlsfan October 7, 2008 at 9:55 am

    kriza09,you’re right

  32. 32 blah October 7, 2008 at 9:55 am

    hey why do u consider that smart? at least the wonder girls are up for a challenge!

  33. 33 rellalove October 7, 2008 at 10:13 am

    good luck to snsd. They will need a LOT of it.

  34. 34 heerie October 7, 2008 at 10:17 am

    ok the drama idea is crap. on the plus side, for once their legs are normal-length and thick, and not photoshopped out to look like noodles.

  35. 35 gabby October 7, 2008 at 10:20 am

    not an snsd fan here, not an anti either. but i totally agree with deathbylogic. if you don’t like them, ignore them. maybe it makes you feel better if you bash them, but really, all the hating, people, what good does it do to you? geez.

    and btw, i’m a dbsk fan. of course snsd is not competing with dbsk, they’re in the same company. :|

  36. 36 Sierra October 7, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Hrmmm… But will they miss out on the awards this year if their album comes so late?

  37. 37 amanda October 7, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Yea about the giggling thing, how do you actually not have the brain power to realize she wasn’t laughing at the earthquake. I am not a fan i only know a few of them by name, but it seems tat most of the “horrible” things they did or said are just minor things a slip of tongue. Like the “my korea” thing or whatever.

    My god has everyone turned off their brain. And think about the context of the situation.

  38. 38 Joongie's_lover October 7, 2008 at 11:00 am

    @amanda: those “slips of tongue” can cause someone to feel horrible and it also caused a news reporter to lose her job because she was giggling at the end of the broadcast about some type of disaster (this is 100% truth). And SNSD needs to learn how to “control their tongue” before speaking/ laughing/ bashing other singers/ people/ celebs.

    SNSD fans keep using excuses that because they are young but please look back, there are many other artists that are MUCH younger than SNSD but they didn’t cause many troubles or bash other people.

  39. 39 kristy October 7, 2008 at 11:08 am

    1st :D BSK is wayyyyy overrated!! i have to say that they have alot of talents,but stop comparing them to other artist…

    2nd:SNSD SUCKS,after wat they done…i just dislike them …at least other artists know wat the word “RESPECT” means…unlike someone *cough* Tiffany!!

    3rd:Big Bang&Wonder Girls FIGHTING!!!

  40. 40 ki October 7, 2008 at 11:12 am

    actually, i’m pretty sure it was the guy that said the name of the province, not tiffany, so she wasn’t laughing at her mistake, she interrupted the sad news by giggling and saying that she thought he said the name of a 2pm member.

    not an anti fan, or a fan, i just wish that tiffany girl would think before she speaks a bit more :/

  41. 41 jjj October 7, 2008 at 11:38 am

    i hate snsd
    diee

  42. 42 LMAO October 7, 2008 at 11:43 am

    eliza/deathbylogic: iawtmfc.

  43. 43 hahaha October 7, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    I don’t think they’re smart.
    If they were smart they’ll also go to college and realize that they can’t be entertainers their entire life. Who wants to be 50 years old, wearing skirts, and holding lollipops while shaking their excess fat? Ew. And you can’t call them smart, it’s obvious that LSM was the one who waited on their “comeback”.

    And I agree with blah, at least they’re (Wonder Girls) challenging themself and not taking the easy way out. And who cares if they’re (DBSK&SNSD) in the same company, we all know that all SM want is money. Won’t it give him profit.

  44. 44 ne October 7, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    love them. can’t wait for their album. lee soo man is smart of course, he’d want snsd to bring in money too so he won’t put them against dbsk.

  45. 45 >: | October 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    SNSD is stupid.

  46. 46 hye sung FAN October 7, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    they are lesbos!

  47. 47 crazz October 7, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    LOL. It’s indeed a smart move even BigBang will have their full album on November too. Didn’t SNSD and BigBang promote ITNW and Lie at around the same time last year? And as I remember both were doing great.

    Of course SM won’t risk it, no one can beat DBSK! I don’t know what will happen with Rain and WG though.

    As for MKMF, maybe it’s even smarter, because it probably means that they’ll compete for next year or something.

    >>ahh, I love to see how much hate displayed whenever there’s a bit of SNSD. A LOT of people care about them so much..

  48. 48 Ann*e October 7, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    ^ahhaa.

    and ehh…
    i do NOT like them
    [my opinion]

    > :P

  49. 49 butters October 7, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    I know there’s a lot of hatred, but what can you expect from teenage girls? The new wave of entertainers now days are too pampered. It’s not like the old days surviving in the small basement room eating ramen noodles everyday hoping for a casting. But they sure could use an advice from the elders because the other day I saw a new show with Tiffany, and I was like “wow, a human cannot get any more clueless”.

  50. 50 teaaa October 7, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    They weren’t as hated when they first debuted. that’s why they did so well. But look at how much has happened THEIR FIRST YEAR. Silent treatments, scandals… they already have so many antis after their first year. So they might not do so well. There’s going to be people (tons, tons of people) that are looking for mistakes from the moment they release this, and i’m just going to say: if they want to be successful, their comeback better be freaking amazing.

  51. 51 L October 7, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Not a fan of SNSD but there would probably be MUCH LESS ANTI’S if Tiffany wasn’t part of the group.

    And whether its directed at her own mistake or the guy’s, tiffany should not laugh when he’s talking about something as serious as earthquakes, you don’t need to be educated to know that.

    And more OT, Girl’s Generation can’t really sing with the exception of 1 or 2 members but some songs are quite catchy so good luck to them, but just because they’re holding out doesn’t make them smart, for all we know they may have delayed the release due to all the drama Tiffany has caused. Seriously though I don’t understand why SM hasn’t removed her, maybe she can sing but we definitely don’t need a character like her in the ent. biz.

  52. 52 Whatever October 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    As if I really believe that’s it by their own choices that they are making their come back now.

    It’s obvious that LSM or whoever is the one calling the shots. Give the credit where it’s due. I think he realized with the big releases recently, SNSD would be left in the dust.

    Good job, LSM! Kudos to you!

  53. 53 yoomi October 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Freaking amazing? Yeah. Not gonna happen.

    Tiffany’s an idiot.

  54. 54 irmakaneli October 7, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    reality my ass ~_~

  55. 55 ^^ October 7, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    y’s everybody bashing so hard on snsd?
    everybody hates them JUST bcoz of tiffany…
    it’s only tiffany, not da whole group
    and i still dun even get wat’s so bad about tiffany
    ok
    mayb she said a few bad things
    but pplz could have misinterpreted wat she said
    and frankly,
    i think pplz are just picking on every tiny little thing she does and blowing it up as an excuse 2 diss her…

    @ joongie’s_lover: u r sooooo not joongie’s lover…
    and i think wat jen meant was:
    they ARE smart… who can compete w/ dbsk?
    as in, they are smart 2 delay till november coz nobody can compete wif dbsk…

    <3 DBSK!!!! hwaiting!

  56. 56 lala October 7, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh snsd are anything but smart.

    sheesh. people just stop buying their albums. if the songs are catchy, just download.

  57. 57 JUDY October 7, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    +_+ Not a fan. Never will be.

  58. 58 blah October 7, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    snsd are sluts.
    and they’re not smart.
    they are SCARED

  59. 59 noone October 7, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    ok look. if ur an anti fan of snsd, DONT WRITE ANYTHING!!!!!!! or if u really have to write smthing, consider others who like snsd cuz I luv them!!

  60. 60 pringLe October 7, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    didnt they hate dbsk? o.o im so confused

  61. 61 eman October 7, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    IF SNSD WAS AFRAID OF COMPETITION FROM WG AND DBSK, THEN WHY THE F*CK DID BIG BANG NOT RELEASE THEIR ALBUM THIS MONTH? WHY WAIT TILL NOVEMBER? WHY DID THaEY SOOOOOOOO QUICKLY RUN OFF TO JAPAN?

    SHEESH!! DOUBLE STANDARDS ANTI-FANS CAN SUCK MY BALLS.

  62. 62 .... October 7, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    @eman,bb already released their album on august. why would they release on every month? it doesnt matter that snsd miss the mkmf,unless you want them to be humilated agian cause they didnt win last year either.yep,wg snatched it away from them and will agian.history has a way of repeating.

  63. 63 .... October 7, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    and bashing bb will not make your group look any better.

  64. 64 lol October 7, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    @eman,do you want big bang to sit around and do nothing. they’re are not allowed any music show except music core. you know why? cause they won all the awards so they’re giving other artists a chance to win. they’re getting ready for three concerts and are coming back next month to squash your snsd. i think your afraid for them,lol.

  65. 65 AntiHunter October 7, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Honestly, if I had my way with the world, I’d take every anti and play “shoot the anti.” It’d be great! Seems like every time SNSD is mentioned anywhere its open season again.

    I would love to see these jackas$es have other people come up to them and tell them they suck at life no matter how hard they try. Think about that, cuz I’d do it. Good thing for these girls is that they’ve achieved more than any of these fu*ktards will ever do in their life.

    It’s all fine and great to enjoy different artists and whatnot, but really now. Getting off on totally dissing people who have done you no harm while they do something they love as their jobs? Lemme guess, you hate the fact they are successful at their dream jobs and you’re 1. Miserable, 2. Unattractive 3. Have virtually zero shot at mackin with Big Bang or DBSK artists 4. all of the above plus much more (did i mention fu*ktard?).

    Since you antis are simple folk and prolly won’t comprehend much of the aforementioned ragging on u folks, I’ll break it down in primal terms. Crushing and squashing SNSD? Please, let’s have all the antis have a brawl with all the die hard snsd fans (army of guys), and THAT, my fu*ktard friends, would be crushing.

    O sh*t, I take that back. SNSD antis are prolly butch a$s fugly chicks that could prolly put up a fight against an army of doods. You can never truly underestimate the strength of unloved, bitter fuggs in this world…

    My apologies to all those that make legit arguments with class. This doesn’t apply to you but sometimes ya gotta fight a lack of class with some unclassy shock therapy. I find DBSK and Big Bang to be very talented groups, and its a shame to have them used as ammunition against these girls.

    Feel free to rag on me the next few days, it’ll give me something to do in my free time to shoot sh*t right back.

    Happy Hunting :)

  66. 66 crazz October 7, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    ah.. this is why I love SNSD. they have so much antis whose hatred comments just simply made my day. fan-girling never been this fun!

    SNSD fighting!

    .and, oh, I love you too STANDers (or whatever SNSD’s antifans name is)!

  67. 67 djlksjkdlf October 7, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    can’t wait for their comeback :)
    antis,keep hatin.
    cause us fans will keep lovin.

  68. 68 . October 7, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    wohh.. i dontknow snsd has so many antis. i’m not a fan, i dont know them much, but i think they’re nicer than wondergirl.

    those people who call them slut, i think wondergirl deserve that more..(altho i dnt knw them much either). u can see easily by the way wg dressed.

  69. 69 crazz October 7, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    ^true. antis, keep on hatin. i love it indeed. your hateful comments just make us, SNSD and their fans, stronger. It’s Soshi Bond, baby!

  70. 70 amerie October 7, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    No wonder PS loves to post anything about SNSD. Look at the comments!

  71. 71 .... October 7, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    @crazz,how are antis making snsd stronger? its not like they’ll buy their albums,lol. snsd is gonna need BIG help in that department.am not an anti,but i dont like them.

  72. 72 black ocean October 7, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    oh thanks, we will stand Strong Till All Nine Disappear(from kpop lol)

    fyi, not all members of SNSD are hated in STAND, but all STAND members do hate TARDFANY..

    sm is SMART not snsd…

    “and those who said they didn’t want to compete with DBSK, of course they won’t. they have RESPECT for their sunbaes”
    NO…it’s because they know they’ll never have the chance to get number 1 in music charts..

  73. 73 black ocean October 7, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    “your hateful comments just make us, SNSD and their fans, stronger. It’s Soshi Bond, baby!”
    stronger?? then why did mr.tae cried during SM town Shanghai?? i’ve heard s(he) even ran away during trainee days because s(he) can’t stand the intense training in sm when s(he) just a trainee for 3 years…

  74. 74 TomatoJuice October 7, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    wow. i can see a bunch of converse.

  75. 75 ne October 7, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    hey black ocean, i don’t know whether or not what you said abouttae is true but in case you hadn’t noticed, she’s still here, she has already debuted. if she did run away, she was able to pick herself back up, debut, and be one of the leading vocalists of snsd. so stfu. of course i know you probably won’t but oh well happy commenting.

  76. 76 HienOo October 7, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    either smart or afraid of competition…well i guess both, they know they cant handle dbsk or the wonder girls, so they just wait a little longer…why not, it’s the best decision they (or father sm) could have made

  77. 77 nikeg October 7, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    @Antihunter
    can i join the hunt? ive always wanted to get rid of ugly anti girls. must be my nazism thinking… “purify the world of ugliness.”

    seriously… why would sm artists compete with each other. let dbsk rule now and snsd will rule later. wouldnt be surprised if suju came back in jan-feb.

  78. 78 black ocean October 7, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    i just want to point out that snsd aren’t strong as claimed by delusionfuls..of course she returned to the sm because it’s her dream btw..

  79. 79 crazz October 7, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    that’s so depends on which context the words “stronger” is. LOL

    “then why did mr.tae cried during SM town Shanghai??”
    oh really? proof? -.-

    “i’ve heard s(he) even ran away during trainee days because s(he) can’t stand the intense training in sm when s(he) just a trainee for 3 years…”
    oh. where’s is SHE now? *coughwithallrudeantislikeyoucough* thanks for giving the example of being stronger.

  80. 80 Annie October 7, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    SNSTD

  81. 81 Kodak FLASH October 7, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    I can’t believe Popseoul used SNSD & smart in the same sentence hahaha…well I don’t think it’s such a smart move when BB will be returning to Korea to release new songs in november as well

  82. 82 UHMJUNGHWA4EVER October 7, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    oh come on, PS. It’s a f/cking comeback. Leave k-pop terminology alone. e_e

  83. 83 aijae October 7, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    oh whatever. They would probably lose, hmm, very likely.
    SNSD is stupid, not smart.

  84. 84 Jenny. October 7, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    1) am more excited about new yg girl group
    2) big bang will surely come up with something awesome
    3) wonder girls & dbsk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else
    4) so nyuh shi dae? i hate them.

  85. 85 black ocean October 7, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    @crazz
    proof?? the concert attenders.but since 99.99% of the attenders are antis, i doubt you will believe them though because antis’ sources always UNRELIABLE, only words from sones are trustable..if there’s 1 sone out of 1000 people said snsd is the most innocent group and the other 999 said snsd have bad manners and disrespectful towards others, you’ll still believe that the sone told the truth just because you think antis have no life and they’re really bad, right?

  86. 86 shameera410 October 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Wahaha!! It sounds a bit like The Simple Life with Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie ….

  87. 87 pastel October 7, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    i have to admit, SM is the one who’s smart not soshi..haha XD but of course, snsd is smart too <3 can’t wait to watch FG..whooo! they’re the best(for me)..hohohoho :D

  88. 88 tenjo October 7, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    yay,can’t wait until their comeback!!

  89. 89 ... October 8, 2008 at 12:39 am
  90. 90 Evans October 8, 2008 at 2:17 am

    I don’t want to come across as a whiner, but you almost ripped off my post. You didn’t even bother changing my wording at most of the places.

    If you had to do that, you could at least give me a lank back as a credit.

    visit here to see for yourself http://www.jroller.com/evans

  91. 91 Izumi October 8, 2008 at 2:26 am

    Girls’ Generation is actually not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

    A few girls there really have singing talent, and Hyoyeon is an amazing dancer.

    I mean, there are a few members that just got a free load off of Mr. Lee (like that one girl… I’m not sure if it was Sunny? But I remember someone is Mr. Lee’s niece).

    I still remember, when I showed my little sister (who is an amazing singer) Girls’ Generation’s cover of “Tell Me”, she was like “Woah! Why don’t they just take over that song, they’re so much better at singing!”

  92. 92 AntiHunter October 8, 2008 at 3:24 am

    Izumi’s right. Wonder Girls are jack sh*t without JYP. He could probably take the above average looking girls from a noraebang and turn them into Wonder Girls. SNSD Maknae Seohyun totally OWNED Sohee AND Sunmi’s parts in their Tell Me. But in all fairness, the WGs are very charismatic and more talented than the majority of us. Just saying SNSD are very good live performers.

    @Nikeg: This Black Ocean dumbf*ck is tryin to be logical. Looks like we got a mark.

    @Black Ocean, I expect to find you surveying the 99.99% bullsh*t you’re claiming is the ratio. While you’re there, you’d prolly be the type to sh*t a brick whenever someone pulls out an MP3 cuz you thought it was a shank. Yea, antis are TOTALLY reliable.

    All you antis bring up the “disrespect to sunbaes” argument. I’m sure you’d LOVE it if random strangers beat the living f*ck outta ya for arguing with your parents (elders, sunbaes, older siblings, etc) at some point in your past despite the fact you’ve apologized to them and they’ve forgiven you. Get over it. BTW, random strangers=AntiHunters.

    Come one Black Ocean, drop some knowledge on me. I’d love to have a go.

  93. 93 rellalove October 8, 2008 at 4:00 am

    ROFL @ antihunter i love you

  94. 94 StrongTillAllNineDisappear October 8, 2008 at 4:08 am

    amen @eliza ,too

  95. 95 Hero-JaeJoong October 8, 2008 at 5:08 am

    Yeah,cos it wont be easy to beat the stars who’re making their “comeback” now.
    Big Bang,Rain,DBSK,WG are one of the toughest competitors and some also has the biggest,most dedicated fanbase.
    SNSD can safely sit on the top in nov when the other big stars are done with the battle D:
    Actually,LSM is the smart one to think of this idea.

  96. 96 humm October 8, 2008 at 5:10 am

    smarts or JUST COWARDS??!!!!!!!!!!!

  97. 97 miii October 8, 2008 at 5:24 am

    wow popseoul is so pro-SNSD!! always bashing WG and always praising SNSD, uh?
    i think SNSD’s strategy is pretty lame! if they’re really (like many of you think) that talented why are they TOTALLY SCARED by the competition? i don’t really find that smart it’s pathetic! what a shame! are they always going to do that?..”oh super junior is going to make his comeback? well ok we’ll wait…Oh big bang will make their comeback now? oh let’s wait again..etc etc…” LOL
    it’s true that WG can’t compete with dbsk but still they’re brave enough to try and work hard! that’s what real artists do! they’re not scared and they don’t run away and that’s why i will always choose WG over SNSD!!!

  98. 98 michlee October 8, 2008 at 5:27 am

    they’re not smart; lee soo man is.

  99. 99 dbskxbigbang October 8, 2008 at 6:00 am

    I’m not an anti nor a fan of SNSD, but I do listen to some of their songs, and some of them can sing pretty well, ie Taeyon so don’t hate them as a whole group, cos some of them hasn’t done anything wrong.I’m not saying they’re completely innocent, cos i kinda agree with what everyone is saying about Tiffany. Also, i don’t think they’re “smart” for waiting until November cos like everyone else is saying Big Bang is coming back too. So being ’scared’ cos of Wonder Girls/DBSK/RAIN etc is totally out of question when they’re releasing an album head on with big bang.

  100. 100 pinkpanther October 8, 2008 at 6:24 am

    oh they are really smart (for the producers) but snsd maybe a few of them, are the girls afraid of the competition? and if I didn’t know tiffany I would say she is innocent and cute but after reading and watching a her perf, I think she is annoying, I think even some of her co-members think so too, she should go to a personality development school and try to the word “RESPECT”

  101. 101 evvy October 8, 2008 at 7:24 am

    Yuck. They’re working as editors? Elle’s business will definitely go down.

  102. 102 hangooksonya October 8, 2008 at 8:03 am

    i want to watch the show!

  103. 103 AntiHunter October 8, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Hey guys, honestly. Let’s not compare fear/courage with logical business maneuvers.

    Like the stock market, is it “cowardly” to sell a stock that’s failing? No, it’s just a way to make sure you make the most out of the situation.

    I’d like all these people calling the girls “cowards” to be brave and totally invest their life savings in the US economy right now as a way of showing bravery. Hahah, seriously, guys. Criticize (not bash) and praise the stars objectively.

  104. 104 anime October 8, 2008 at 10:35 am

    are you kidding me! why are they still in the industry? them and their stupid comments and songs!

  105. 105 222 October 8, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    not fond of them they had this annoying presence so i never cared about them
    anyways popseoul get ur facts straight Big Bang isn’t making a comeback this month, they are planning for their korean ‘comeback’ in november. they are working on their JAPANESE promotions currently so no, those over rated girls arent the only ’smart’ ones

  106. 106 Arie October 8, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    You shouldn’t judge SNSD’s talent because of one member.
    I’m a SoShi fan even though I don’t approve of Tiffany’s behaviour.
    They DO have nice vocals and they DO have nice dancers. There’s a lot more talent there than in most girl groups~

    And they WOULDN’T be competeing against DBSK cause they are from the same freaking company, are you stupid or what? SooMan knows his business ;D

  107. 107 candy October 8, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    surprising to see ’smart’ and ’snsd’ in the same sentence. :/

  108. 108 ne October 8, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    good point,anti hunter.

  109. 109 SupportTillAllNineDominates October 8, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    oooh factory girl! can’t wait!

  110. 110 sweet_nipples October 8, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    if they’re smart, then I must be Einstein. The one who is smart is Lee Soo Man. SNSD have no say in it.

    @ SupportTillAllNineDominates

    STRONG TILL ALL NINE DISAPPEARS.. what a total rip-off. Dominate what??? The world????LMFAO!!

  111. 111 SNSD? October 8, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    I’m actually a fan of DBSK and SNSD, and i think its stupid for ppl to anti artists..

    1) SNSD is not stupid.

    2) Lee Soo Man Doesn’t controls everything, THEY discuss bout it.

    3) SNSD is not coward, they were just don’t want to be compared with WG.and fans will fight AGAIN.

    4) I think SNSD sings better than WG, no offense.

    5) Do you KNOW Tiffany? If you’re just reading the news out there, i don’t think you really know her.

    6) DBSK is just the BEST! Because they are experienced.

    7) DBSK had a lot of fans.. including me..

    8) artists wouldn’t want their fans to hate other artists, this will make them very embaressed.

    9) Antis.. Do you want more people to die because your harassing? Everyone hopes that the Choi jin-sil thg to stop.

    10) Factory Girl? Can’t wait for it..

    * You antis.. can’t you just ignore them?

  112. 112 itachi October 8, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    lmao at you SOSHI TROOPS!!!

    you just can’t accept the fact that your girls did a lot of nistakes and yeah THEY ARE STUPID!!
    they just can lift their legs up without being able to sing, dance, etc!
    they’re total air heads!!!!
    and no it’s not smart! it’s FEAR!
    they know they have so many ppl hates them so their album will just put in the recycle bin!!!

    SNSD GO AND DIE!!!

  113. 113 urfrenis October 8, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    i dun say i hate them….i do hate them n i wish they would get disband coz of some members in the band i hate them n people as well agree wid me who hate them…….
    but i dun think they cant be compared woid bg or dbsk or wg
    coz these bands r not fake but snds r fake…..
    i really hope they fail wid big bang/………

  114. 114 Big A October 8, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Factory Girl huh, I gotta look for the YouTube vids or from other sites.

  115. 115 Angel October 8, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    hahahahaahahahaah
    Popseoul maybe you have forgotten father SM.
    They only have big heads filled with air.

  116. 116 Angel October 8, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    @bebeayumi
    you make me laugh

  117. 117 STAND! (all 9 dissapear) October 8, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    i seriously don’t see talent in them
    i would say only taeyeon if i was left with no choice
    jessica sings likes shes constipated
    than theres no one else, dunno and don’t care.
    they always have like 3/9 to sing or maybe just ty and jessica

    come on if the rest of the 7/9 came out,
    hello?!!!
    it would probably, no definitely suck!

    at least wg’s had them all singing even for ballads
    not put them in the back as back-up singers or dancers.

    factory girls,
    ya they look like it.
    like they came out of a failed barbie doll factory
    with ugly plastic faces, those without a plastic on their face ought to put them in cause its disturbing and her hideous moustache too and i am talking about Yoona (OVEROVER rated!)

    kpop disaster,
    no one has such a big anti fan base in kpop history i tell you…

  118. 118 wtf October 9, 2008 at 3:03 am

    wow a lot of people who post comments here are quite stupid. i can’t help but think who all these anti fans are. why waste time out of your life to devote yourself to hate something so much? is your life that pitiful to not find something better to do with your time?

  119. 119 ... October 9, 2008 at 3:09 am

    What?? When the hell did antis say they want SNSD to die? They want them to DISBAND. Dumbass -____-

  120. 120 ... October 9, 2008 at 3:29 am

    .. I thought BB’s gonna release it in Japan

  121. 121 Shamsa October 9, 2008 at 4:52 am

    you really don’t know Tiffany,
    why would someone make such an effort to hate someone??
    Either your lives suck or you are dying of jealousy,

    I hope Tiffany date Hero of TVXQ although I hate them, but just as a service for the anti fans xD

  122. 122 AntiHunter October 9, 2008 at 7:00 am

    Itachi the dumbf*ck pretty embodies everything I mentioned that shows their idiocy.

    20 bucks to see your untalented, fugly as$ try to do half of what these girls can do. Can’t sing? Go check out the Wonder Girls and try to see SoHee hit a correct note (I know, it’s like winning the lotto), or Ye-Eun “singing” the bridge in Nobody live performance (wow she briefly hit a note then COMPLETELY went flat).

    Lmao at Soshi troops? Hey if you’re so brave, how bout u put you’re money where your mouth is and burn a big pile of money to show off your bravery. It’s obvious your obvious misconceptions of the words “smart” and “cowardly” will ultimately win you the Darwin Award. Let me explain that in words you might understand. You know lemmings? The animals that’d fall off cliffs in huge bunches. Yea, that’s you, buddy.

    Either you have the mind of a 6 year old, or you’re fu*ktarded. O yea, learn some proper English, douchef*g.

    @STAND! Wonder Girls are definitely so much “braver” by making sure everyone sings and gets a part. That’s kinda why people slit their wrists as their ears bleed when SoHee opens her mouth. That TOTALLY makes them better.

    Come on antis, I’ve been hunting you guys for 3 days now and still no legit challenge. Sure, show your bravery by dissing on 9 girls who will never read your sh*t and respond. Test you’re arguments against me. Fu*king cowards need to come out and take me on. I’m here every day, and this antihunting crusade will not end til I own ALL of your as$es.

    JUST BRING IT!

  123. 123 o.O October 9, 2008 at 10:15 am

    snsd knows when to hit korea. that is, so to speak, smart in it’s own way. not brave, but you know, better smart and alive than brave and buried under tons of #1 songs and groups. i think it’s smarter to wait than trying to compete with jyp or yg groups cause snsd will always be weaker. seriously, snsd was no 1 when wondergirls was in the us but since they are back there will be no way that they can make it to the top. though it seems that they avoided direct battles with wg. [or the other way around?? i don't know]
    hey, maybe jyp and wg plan another song this year.. hmmm would definitely be interesting cause jyp won’t back off.. that’s for sure..
    oh, and i think the poster above me doesn’t really have facts.. psh complaining about bashing but really… what about all the personal insults and offensive language? not worth reading.

  124. 124 ki October 9, 2008 at 11:12 am

    i like how everyone is contradicting themselves by hating on antis lol

  125. 125 teaaa October 9, 2008 at 11:13 am

    ahaha i don’t get why some people are bashing WonderGirls and standing up for SNSD. lol.

    and then AntiHunter is totally being this huge hypocrite by hating on wondergirls to make SNSD look better.

    ahah. in his/her first post, didn’t he/she say that it was sad that we were leeching off of other groups like Big Bang and DBSK and using them as ammunition. lol.

    and then he/she is bashing antis by saying, “Getting off on totally dissing people who have done you no harm while they do something they love as their jobs? ” and then turning right around to say, “[SNSD] Can’t sing? Go check out the Wonder Girls and try to see SoHee hit a correct note (I know, it’s like winning the lotto), or Ye-Eun “singing” the bridge in Nobody live performance (wow she briefly hit a note then COMPLETELY went flat).”

    hm. at least Ye-Eun can compose songs. you know, write them by herself, compose and play the instrumentals. It takes talent. -_-;;

    and Sohee’s voice? LOL. have you heard Yoona’s live singing? Talk about bleeding ears.

    honestly, if you want to see a live performance of SNSD, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDkxsCiNnc0&feature=related

    yup. my brother saw this and he was like, “seriously, all they have is looks. I wish there was a girl group where more than just one member had singing talent.”

    yeah. i expect to see a couple paragraphs on why they were so off-tune and nasty sounding. go for it. No matter what you say, we all know the only ones with actual singing talent in there is Taeyeon and Seohyun.

  126. 126 Person October 9, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    lawl wow, all you girls, i’m pretty sure most of your are girls since i see the characteristics of girls usually being hateful, and complaining, need to calm downnnn. seriously. who wastes their time bashing people they don’t like? lawlll i find you stupid and unreasonable XD geez i don’t understand girls that create drama (8 but it’s so interesting

  127. 127 yoomi October 9, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    ki & teaaa: You guys are my heroes.

  128. 128 AntiHunter October 9, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Solid. It’s game time!

    Teaaa, thank you so much for calling me out on stooping to anti level.

    As I have said before, judging and criticizing artists based on the merits of their skills is legit. I admit i did get outta hand with the exaggerating of Ye-Eun and SoHee’s voice talents. I was just trying to prove a point to all those uber-talented douches who bash on the girls’ singing skills with no actual arguments as if they were born with God-given talents themselves.

    The Wonder Girls are very talented, with SoHee having some great charisma (i.e. her Beyonce Dance covers).

    My point is, don’t go around bashing these girls as talentless. Yoona scored a huge gig as a 17 year old LEAD in a drama. Hyoyeon and Yuri can flat out dance. Sunny and Tiffany actually have great vocals themselves.

    My hypocrisy is borne from reacting to a Wonder Fan bashing on the girls with no shame. I am merely guilty of fighting fire with fire.

    I got no excuse for off-tones and mistakes in live performances, and neither do the girls. I’m just saying, if a WG fan decries the superiority of one or the other, suck it up and watch your own damn group before bashin another.

    And you gotta see that the leeching off Big Bang and DBSK argument I had was legit. These people aren’t judging musical talent or making logical comparisons. They’re straight up bashing the girls while name-dropping their favorite band. That’s different than what I did.

    All in all, I stand by my claims because they were directed and applied to a group of antis accordingly. Secondly, I’m very glad that people like teaaa can actually put together a sound argument unlike the rest of these douches. Touche, teaaa, touche.

    Any other comers? I’m saving my most scathing counterbashes for the E-tards that populate this comment board.

  129. 129 cherry October 10, 2008 at 12:28 am

    ewwww…

  130. 130 aburrido October 10, 2008 at 10:27 am

    And I like how everyone cares enough to come back to see if anyone actually read their rant haha.

  131. 131 elle October 10, 2008 at 11:28 am

    i’m really anticipating their comeback : )
    the girls sold 124,000 copies of their first album, and i’m betting the 2nd album will sell more. apparently there are rap songs on the album, so there’s a chance sm is changing their image.

    to be honest, people are too harsh sometimes toward celebs. it’s understandable that criticism comes with the job decription, but antis are beyond irrational… it all stems from jealousy.

    and it’s so funny to hear how offended people are by snsd and their actions. honestly, get over it. they don’t even know you exist.

  132. 132 oh no October 11, 2008 at 10:16 am

    SNSD SUX

  133. 133 your mom October 11, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    how much snsd has sold albums this month?
    1,109.

    more than you thought, right?
    http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sales0808nw3.jpg

    And you’re still thinking SNSD is going to fail…

  134. 134 sj October 11, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    ^you’re wrong, is not of this month but august.
    still doing better than i thought…

  135. 135 danica*'-'* October 11, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    In my opinion, all are good performers(Rain, DBSK, SNSD, Wonder Girls, and Big Bang) but let us then look at the big picture. Wonder Girls and SNSD, hmmn..who really is better? Wonder Girls are cute but SNSD are also cute, SNSD have wonderful songs and then again Wonder Girls also have, they also have songs that are a bit sexy in a way. As a summary, I think that they are both even, singing good and dancing well. Even though I still prefer SNSD songs than to Wonder Girls( Hey! I’m still unbias, you know.), but I much prefer Wonder Girls in performing live. HAHAHAHA! I still love both groups, now more loving Wonder Girls..hahaha..they still manage to shine in the light altough being out numbered by SNSD(hey! it’s not the quantity! it’s the quality)hahahaha!! So here’s a question to all the fans out there or to those who just read my message. Who do you think is much better and why? State your reason. HAHAHAHA! Thank you in advance.=P

  136. 136 Micky's wifey October 12, 2008 at 12:42 am

    SNSD all the way (:

    perhaps some should really be grateful because SNSD existed..
    if not the Kpop industry will be plain DEAD..
    and the anti’s won’t have any topics to discuss @@

    We-> SOWON will back up SNSD to fight against STAND >.<

  137. 137 dnarkim October 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    SMART or SCARED???

  138. 138 T October 14, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    I think teaaa’s example of Yoona’s singing was unfair because that was a recording of the Dream Concert and the girls were on the verge of crying because of what the fans did to them. Naturally, your voice will become shaky and unstable if you’re crying. Yoona’s not that great of a singer compared to her co-members, but she’s not terrible either. (Or at least not as terrible as SoHee in my opinion.)
    I am a Soshi fan because I can see that all of the girls are talented in some way, whether it be singing, acting, dancing, modeling, etc. I just wish everyone else could see how talented they are instead of hating on them because of something Tiffany said or did. (And beautiful! Hey, if you look at their old pictures, you can see that they didn’t have much work done, if any.) It’s so funny how antis bash on SNSD’s outfits, which they have no say in picking since that’s their stylists’ job, saying that they are too short or whatever. We have seen a lot much more provocative clothing worn by celebrities, but they aren’t bashed as much as SNSD. Besides, it’s not like they are parading around in bikinis or whatever.
    And calling Taeyeon a man? In what way is she “manly”? She looks and acts like a female… Is it her voice? I think her voice is powerful and not as high pitched as the other girls, not at all masculine. If she sounds like a man, what does Yoobin sound like? Her voice is really deep too. And that singer from Seeya?
    Anyway, I’m not out to bash other groups because while I also like WG, there are a lot of things I don’t like about them too *coughlivesingingcough*. Ciao!

  139. 139 rellalove October 15, 2008 at 3:49 am

    oh shut up!! enough whining. this is getting NOWHERE

    fighting snsd and wonder girls

  140. 140 vivian October 15, 2008 at 6:17 am

    i’m not SDSN’s fan or WG’s fan, at first listen to their music, WG has more catchy song and their video clip seem better, but their voice not that good. SDSN, i dont like their image cute, angel…..and their video clip not not get my attention, but their vocal is nice

  141. 141 who? October 18, 2008 at 11:12 am

    first off, snsd is not the smart ones. it’s SM. and, it doesnt mean they are not up to the challenge. it’s because of SM. see that connection, can you?

    as a fan of kpop groups in general, i think snsd should be handed another chance. i mean, just one last chance. and i really mean this towards tiffany. she speaks before thinking sometimes.

  142. 142 wut October 18, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    they’re hiding in new york because they know they’re no match against any of the other bands, especially their competition WG. it really does seem like they’re scared and are hiding. look at all the anti snsd stuff that’s been going on. I would be afraid to show my face too if I were them. they know they wouldn’t dare stage a real comeback now when the antis are going so strong. (actually their company is smart for sending them away instead of putting them on stage). honestly, if you’ve got a decent group of signers together, you would not want to tuck them far away when all the other competition and groups are putting their music out there and actually DOING stuff. come on snsd is a BAND, where is the MUSIC?this reality tv show is just an excuse, they’re just afraid of the negative reactions they might get from all the antis they’ve managed to make for themselves.

  143. 143 asianfreak1995 October 22, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    Man.. i am loving Factory Girl
    i like it!! :)
    Can’t wait to finish watching!! :P