No joke. It seems like the Japanese have turned from Cassiopeians into VIPs now that DBSK is back in the motherland. But what happens when Big Bang goes back home?
Big Bang’s Concert Tour, otherwise known as “Stand Up 2008“, has seen sold out performances as well as positive attention not only from media but from other Japanese singers such as W-inds‘ Tachibana Keita, whose group won “Best Asian Singers” from the Asia Song Festival.
Through this tour, Big Bang saw about 20,000 fans all across Japan (but keep in mind they’re probably counting seats not individuals) beating their attendance rate from their last tour which was half that amount. Overall, Big Bang has received the seal of approval from the Japanese. But now that these boys are returning back home to promote their album “Remember” with their official comeback performance on MBC’s Music Core on November 8, 2008, who will replace them in Japan?
As of now, it seems like the clowns have it down pat by trying to “take over NRBs” (noraebangs or karaoke rooms) with Super Junior T’s Japanese version of “Rokkugo”.
Check out the video.
Some pictures from the concert.
i think suju t’s really cute haha <3
kkkk, I don’t think Cassiopeians would turn into VIPs and then E.L.F. It doesn’t even make any sense Popseoul. Just because DBSK leaves Japan for a little bit doesn’t mean that their fans will change or either just because Big Bang leaves Japan does not mean that their fans will turn into E.L.F either.
Sometime u just don’t make any sense Popseoul~
first? Big Bang Hwaiting! Can’t wait ’til “Remember” comes out!
nvm…
Can SuJu-T’s gag really carry them that far though?
I doubt it.
LOL
wow
agree with Joongie’s_lover
huh? last time i heard Bigeasters are the FC name of Toho’s fanclub. sigh, don’t stir up anything PS.
PS, did you write the article when you got drunk?
lol… that’s funnie
i doubt that the cass would turn into VIPs. they’re too loyal to their idols. maybe u were being sarcastic? and theres like no difference between the two band except that DBSK has the sexy bod but Big Bang’s music is better(in my opinion). its good to hear Big Bang is doing well in Japan. i look forward to their next album. btw Rokkugo sounds better in Korean.
Probably. Cassiopeians, VIPs and Elves don’t actually care about the music. They’re just shallow fangirls.
So as long as the boyband their worshiping are attractive + wear as little clothes as possible, then they’re definite fans.
Popseoul,
I don’t know what you’re whining about now…
Duh, Popseoul is being sarcastic.
I can’t till ‘Remember,’ I’m already way into the teaser.
I didn’t have an ounce of doubt in my mind, that BB wouldn’t succeed in Japan. They’re just awesome (let me have my fangirl moments). I was so happy about what W-inds said about them! Ahhh!
Super Junior. Man, I used to like them a lot now they’re so boring and ehhh. They literally wear out every song and I’m so annoyed by them right now. =/ [Sorry Elves.] I kind of wish that they’ll grow up (or at least act their age), I wanna see a grown man concept. Funny how you called them clowns.
I think Suju T’s jap debut is just a side project to keep those members busy while SJM is gaining massive popularity back in China. So yea, I doubt Suju T will make that big of a noise, although Super Junior as a whole is actually already quite popular in Japan (relatively speaking to other artists to barely did any promotional activities there).
whooops! NEW BANNER AGAIN, POPSEOUL?
oh wait..i think i just saw jang dong gun, jun ryu won and another one i can’t remember who in the banner..and now, they’re gone..
super clowns!
I don’t really get this… Are you trying to say that people in Japan who like Korean music must like ALL Korean music? I’m pretty sure that the people who are fans of Big Bang’s music aren’t going to be the same ones running off to see Super Junior in concert. There are a lot of people in Japan, you know. And just because DBSK went back to Korea, doesn’t mean their fans have forgotten them. Obviously they haven’t, what with the 60k in album sales of Mirotic within its first week of release.
This article doesn’t make any kind of sense.
I have no idae about turning into VIPS.
I am VIPS.
I love BIGBANG now and forever.
and today is TOP’s birthday, i’d like all VIPS say something ti him or pray for him.
vips should not care about the thing one have said or have written.
we should be with our BIGBANG, support our BIGBANG.
remember? love BIGBANG as much as you can do.
by the way, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU T.O.P
-.- totally doesnt make sense!
i don’t really get it…
I completely don’t understand your sentences.
What are you trying to say? DBSK goes back home, so BIGeasters turn to VIPS and now that they’re going back home, they’re turning into ELFS….
WHat a completely useless article. Please, you’re generalizing the fans as people who goes for koreans who come over to Japan? It’s perfectly fine to like more than 1 artists, no matter how loyal you are.
Goodness, don’t bring unnecessary things just for the sake of making a topic for us to start bashing at each other.
iono what you guys are going on about…
the article is obviously just stating that japanese seem to go from one kpop group to another like it was nothing…well at least the media is…
dang…people need to improve their reading comprehension skills
so what..
can’t we be fans of all 3 groups???
Hwang P.
November 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Probably. Cassiopeians, VIPs and Elves don’t actually care about the music. They’re just shallow fangirls.
So as long as the boyband their worshiping are attractive + wear as little clothes as possible, then they’re definite fans.
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HAHAHAHA I DONT THINK SO HWANG P
I’m a VIP primarily because Big Bang’s music rocks, I’m not into sugary SuJu or DBSK pop
If Big Bang was ugly I’d still be into them
i dun really care if some cassies turn to vip..i mean, it juz 20,000 from all around japan..dbsk T concerts attended by 150,000 fans..so what the big deal if some of them turn to vip? dbsk still have a lot more fans btw..n why can’t everyone cassies or bigeasters be vip or elves too..or vice versa..it’s not like u must enjoy your idol’s music only to prove ur loyalty to ur idol right..c’mon, get some variety.. music is universal btw..
agree with Joongie’s_lover, post#2..
I’m DB’s fans, and also BB’s and SJ’s…
gyaa congratz BB!!
i think BB better than TVXQ in music but who can beat TVXQ when it comes to look huh?? hehe..
but i still prefer BB..
Man, seriously, what is the age of the people who read this blog? Don’t take everything to heart so much, it’s just a sarcastic article which is to be read for entertainment and also to be taken lightly.
Lighten up people. These dudes are just idol groups.
suju’ll never ever take over japan with those type of music(and mv)..
it makes me want to throw out..
haha..
how funny you are..
Writer,did u eat or drink something disgusting before?
I hope suju is big in japan.
Those are some shiny jackets!
BB fans like to say their music is better than DBSK. Uh don’t think so. They’re in different genres, and I’m into the genre that need some vocal skills.
what’s wrong with being both.?
one : Popseoul! tohoshinki fan club in japan is called Bigeast fyi. hence Bigeastation Radio.
two: bigeast is hella loyal, they just dont “switch” fan clubs like that. ever heard of.. oh idont know, NEW FANS?!
three: i freaking love suju T.
Go Big Bang!!!!! HHHHHHHHHooooooooooooootttttttttting!
So the conclusion of this post is that: Japanese fans of Korean music are nothing but shallow fangirls?
Some people here need to get the sarcasm detector fixed. You can go to the Humor Metaphor store and get them to repair it for 20% off. Since yours might be broken, let me explain the humor of this post:
No one actually thinks that fans, or the state of being a fan is interchangeable. Popseoul was using sarcastic humor to fill an article. If you’re too dense to “get” that, hang out at nickjr.com instead of popseoul.com. Dora the Explorer doesn’t make jokes that go over your head ^_^
Japan seems a lot more open to korean artists now, and while Big Bang has been doing very well, Super Junior has just as much of potential, mainly because they branch out to different genres and can get a wider spread fanbase.
Big East hasn’t quit and become VIPs, you CAN be a fan of more than one group.
that doesnt make sense. i agree with angel that you can be a fan of more than one group. i like both big bang and suju. besides, they are fairly different when it comes to genre. but given that suju released rokugo in japan instead of tracks from their 2nd album (which has their best songs), i dont think the japanese will like them being, as you call them, clowns.
http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq321/kenoa1983/20081101032322-1.jpg
E.L.F. [everlasting friends] not elves. elves are creepy creatures. [for the second thought sj-m chinese fans call themselves elf. ] but that’s out of the topic. & just like angel said super junior have a lot of potential. sj-m debuted successfully in china. so sj-t can also do it in japan~!
people actually listen to this stuff??? if anybody sang that song at norebang with me, i’ll kick his ass out the room
get the sarcasm.
don’t quite get how it’s funny…
And can we stop with the “shallow fangirls” insult?
If you really love music, you’ll respect that there’s diversity in music and what people prefer about music.
It’s good to see that Big Bang is garnering positive responses from Japan.
However, I think PopSeoul wrote the article a little bit too optimistically. Getting a concert ticket sell-out with 20,000 is not really much of a “seal of approval”. Even TSZX (the most talented girl group of Asia, in my opinion) who is doing horridly in Japan as far as popularity and CD sales go garner up numbers near 10,000 ~ 13,000 on their concerts.
A lot of the Japanese just get interested and attend the concerts, so you have to remember that not everyone who attends is going to be a loyal fan, like in Korea.
Now, TVXQ is a bit of a different case because their fanbase in Japan has become rock-solid. As someone else had mentioned, their T Tour actually had a total of 400,000 seats total, and of course, all of the concerts counted separately were all marked with a “sold-out” very quickly.
It’s also important to take into consideration that Japan doesn’t have as many 빠돌이’s as Korea does (basically fans that are extremely obsessive and will be extremely loyal in buying everything that their idols produce). Even for TVXQ, BIGeast set aside, a lot of the attenders of the concerts aren’t fanatics ~ a lot of times, they attend concerts to have fun and release some stress, and get a good show (not really for the sole purpose of just supporting the artist).
So, if you take all these things into account, yes, definitely, it’s a good progressive start by Big Bang, but to put it simply, they have a long way to go to get anywhere near getting a “seal of approval”. Even TVXQ, known in Japan as the prime example of a successful Korean-Japanese cross-over band, still gets withered next to native Johnny’s groups like KAT-TUN or Hey! Say! JUMP (regardless of talent levels).
It’s amazing that TVXQ hits Oricon Weekly #1’s consecutively (and they have written history this year), but on the same note, TVXQ’s most successful single chart run with SUmmer Dream / Love in the Ice ranked at 120,000 (which is incredible if it was in Korea).
But Hey! Say! JUMP or KAT-TUN’s single sales are capable of reaching the 300,000’s, so… you know, the Japanese music market is definitely not easy.
Regardless of whatever’s going on in the post, I am just amazed at Izumi’s comment. I wish there was an article on it.
well, all 3 bands are amazing.. i mean, we can’t compare them coz they’re totally different from each other.. ^^
LOL.
I dun think Big East(which is the japanese fanclub’s official name for DBSK) will turn to VIPS and Elves.
maybe other international fans might,but i believe Big East will remain supportive of DBSK even after they leave Japan.
Mirotic single has alrdy proved it.
Anw,its good that Big Bang is starting to make some progress in Japan.
its a good thing their music is different from those common j-pop.
Hwaiting,Big Bang !
this article is stupid and waste of a post. some fans are shallow but they arent deaf. if the people think a song sounds good then they’ll listen to it. no one listens to only one artists cuz thats just odd. Popseoul go look on your own iPod/mp3/mp4/playlist and tell us if you only listen to one artist/group. I highly doubt you only listen to one artist/group so these articles are stupid
@ lovestylefree:
Aaw, thank you XD
W-inds. *^^*
-gets shot-
You know, some people can still be a Cassiopeia and VIP at the same time ~
No big deal :/
LOL..DBSG is everywhere..u just think they are gone..muhahaha..i love them both DBSG and BB are amazing..both!
Gotta love Big Bang!
GO GO GO ELVES!!lols
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waah..dint know VIP is big bangs fangroups name~~ignorant child!!mwahhaa
Cassiopeia for life.
DBSK<3
Yoochun<3333
Junsu<33333333
Jaejoong<333
Changmin<3
Yunho<3
F.Y.I. Popseoul,
DBSK’s Japanese fans are called Bigeast not Cass. And I doubt they will turn on their Tohoshinki so easily.
Bigeast will definitely not turn on Tohoshinki that easily
since it took them like 3 years to build that up
how the heck are they just going to turn to VIPs which dont even sing in japanese?
i love big bang.but only in korea
i will like them even more if they debut in japan with a JAPANESE single not an english song in japan..
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@ May:
Ah, that is one really good point.
I still don’t understand why YG does not force them to take intensive Japanese for a few months (while being inactive) and then show up on the public scene in Japan with some language capabilities.
I still have yet to find a YouTube video of Big Bang interviewing in Japanese or being on a talk show without speaking in Korean and having subtitles.
For singing the songs in English, well, they can make an excuse for that by saying that they want their songs to be noticed “internationally” and that singing in fluent English is something popular in Japan, but they have no excuse for needing subtitled translations every time they get air time…
That Suju MV is old if you’re going to post it just now. Always trying a to find a way to diss Suju, huh?
Fans who love the bands enough to be call such titles aren’t going to just jump around to the next artist in the country.
Fans can be into more than one band.
To dheartsc: Woot! Heechul and Sungmin at the top! XD
I love DBSK.
I like Big Bang.
Please dont say that Cassiopeians are turning into VIPs.
*** CREDIT as tagged on the photo! That banner is on “a building which is located a station before the famous Shibuya center (Shibuya is one of the biggest shopping center in JAPAN)” ***
Don’t worry, vips will always support bigbang and same goes for Cassiopeians and ELFs for their DBSK n’ Super Junior!
I’m sure BigBang will have a huge banner of themselves in Japan soon, just like Super Junior- T!!!!
I totally agree with lovestylefree. Honestly, PopSeoul’s biased criticism and forced sarcasm is getting on my nerves. Izumi, you should get your comments published in a blog from now on
Big Bang always comes back with a BIG BANG! Sooooo can not wait!!!!!
hahhaah Popseoul is trying to start a fight now between Cassies and VIPs? i LOVE DBSK, but i also don’t mind Big Bang;but let me just say that the target audience for the two groups (when in Japan) is different. everybody already knows that its BigEast is mainly a more mature crowd -> that is why DBSK’s image in Japan is very different than the one they have in Korea. But based on BigBang’s music, i don’t think they will be converting and of those fans anytime soon. BB seems to be focusing on the younger crowd. And as for SuJu-T, who knows! maybe Japanese people who like Enka music will like them because Trot has a similar feel to enka? sorry for the rant XD
ps. i dont normally read the comments too much but wow Izumi! nice post! hahaha
i really don’t understand the problem with being a fan of more than one group or person 0_0
srsly…there is no “turning.”
Popseoul, you do notice many fans are fans of DBSK AND Big Bang. They don’t choose unless they have to, as fans we are entitled to like both
personal point though, Ri ri likes Xiah too XD so RELAX VIP’s and Casseiopedia (oh! however you spell it!) ^^
i dunno…but this malaysian is still cassiopeian!!! abang jaejoong, HWAITING!!!!! hahahahaha!!
“It seems like the Japanese have turned from Cassiopeians into VIPs” are you kiding me?? MIROTIC = #1 oricon wekly chart is nothing for you??
popseoul is always like this
they are more negative than positive stuffs
plus,
they love to insult Super Junior
SJ is not clowns okay.
they just dont go the cool way,
thjey go the cute way.
and its not ELVES
its E.L.F
wth
and CASSIOPEIA IS ONE.
As much as I like SuJu T, I really, really don’t like how the Japanese version sounds. And Big Bang sounds good. Although I don’t think they’re selling as much as they actually can because they’re singing mostly in English.
are you bored popseoul? the article has no point at all xDD
Cant they be all three? I mean, I know theyll all be more Cassiopeians than anything else, but they can still like other bands as well. :pp
lol world domination? AWESOME!
i think the targeted fans of the three froups are quite different but dbsk and suju fans are closer in age group…
they are all proceeding well in japan and i think they will make it big…
but bb need to change its marketing people…
how come they are labelled the exile in korea to sell their number 1 album?
their style dont even come close
@ rosa:
Really? I’ve never heard of Big Bang being labeled as the “EXILE of Korea”, but if that is true, then that is a really misleading label…
ca’ah turn to vip? elf?
puhlese!!
I hope not.
Gosh!
wat an ugly vid![sj't]
Eww!
toho will never be forgotten as long as sekime-san continue doing variety shows. lol
anyways. love this article. so stupid not even funny^^
and actually, bigeast is like the straightest most mature most behaved fanclub in the world. so theyre definately not shallow or crazy
hey! if u guys like bb dbsk or watsoever, plz stick to them if you want to n leave with no comments. u guys are being childish!
n helo! if u dont like any other bands, then dont insult them. does it kills?
n excuse me! it e.l.f. not elves. your gave that name is it??!
Oh miii gosh!
Are you people dreaming?
How the hell can you compare Bigbang to that pathetic Super Junior T?
Big Bang has it all. Great music, good-looking members.
Super junior T? Just look at their moronic faces… retarded videos, choreography and costumes? I don’t think educated Japanese people would give a s_hit about this pathetic group.
How pathetic.
LIKE WTF dude once a bigbang fan always one that y were all V.I.P’S….
as much as i love suju becuz there are some cute members… but to make it big in JAPAN? Uh-oh… no-no. it’s not a wise strategies suju. as for i, i do love suju, seriously, becuz they’re funny. but song-wise, it’s a total flop. believe me, Japanese sense of music is not Suju’s specialties, okay? and dbsk works hard at Japan that they successfully make it big there. and japanese began to accept korean singers. and big bang juz took this opportunity to try their luck. n uh- i believe they did it? i don’t know much about their activities in Japan. but i think i prefer big bang in korea. but, more than that, suju is never gonna beat big bang, moreover turning dbsk’s and big bang’s fan into elf. and i’ve been wondered… why the heck does suju fans (i mean d fanclub. i am a suju fan also, just not that hyper about them, okay?) named the fanclub E.L.F? Its sounds so… childish… they could’ve come out with a better name. take some reference from cassiopeia and v.i.p. it sounds… high class. no offense to elf. but yeah, just an opinion.
ELF = Ever Lasting F.aggots.
I bet a lot of these fans are fans for all three.
20 000 wth? thats not even half of japanese cassies..damn!
AND DUHH! CASSIES ARE ALWAYS LOYAL TO DBSK BOYS!! DAMN THIS BLOG SITE IS SOO BIASED TO NEGATIVNESS!! DAMN!!
Wow, this article is so pointless.
Shinhwa fans are the most loyal and have the most fans in Japan as wwell. They have over 50,000 fans in Japan.
well.i’m an E.L.F..
love suju-t..
popseoul is being childish..
Hello.
No ELVES.
It’s just E.L.F
loser.