Traditional order of marriage first and then baby is thrown out the window.
Jang Hyuk (31) announced today that he will be a father. The child with pilates instructor, Kim Yeo-jin (33) is expected in February 2008.
The couple is planning to tie the knot in June 2008 – just 4 months after giving birth. The poor girl will have to do a Heidi Klum to whip herself into shape in time for the summer wedding.
The couple met in 2002 when the actor took her pilates class about once a month. Incidentally, he was the only male in the class of 40 females (lucky females to have such eye-candy!!). The teacher-student relationship of once a month dates blossomed into more when Jang Hyuk and Ms. Kim met the parents and announced their engagement this year.
Congratulations!
So does this mean that it’s possible to meet your future husband at a fitness club?
For starters, Double H Gym on Dosan Road or California Fitness in Apku-jong are the place for celebrity sightings. However, you need a membership first.
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carribeane just because you don’t think it’s right to have a child before marriage does not mean it’s wrong. That’s just your opinion and I don’t like it when people come with their religious views. Not everyone has the same views.
I agree with Mary and chadhova. Leave the guy alone he is human after all. I don’t see anything wrong with having a child before marriage. Just be happy he is taking responsibility.
I think many of those who are religious and use it to say whether something is right or wrong are such hypocrites.
i dont get what’s wrong..
im a catholic.. but its their choice really..
besides.. i know of couples who arent married yet have been together for 10-30 years.. and then there are a lot of married couples who after 1-2 years gets divorced
which to me is not better..
Even without invoking religion, it is common sense that the natural order of life is marriage and then family. A child born out of wedlock is considered illegitimate,even according to civil law. Those who are so angered by Carribeane because of her Christian belief does not give her the respect for her opinion and belief. Celebrities do have a responsibility to be honest with their fans…we do not want all the details (chadhova- please, calling names is totally unnecessary)…just the basic courtesy of honesty. After all, without the fans, their careers will go nowhere. If you do not want the truth, then you are only fooling yourself. You are, after all, spending the money to rent or purchase the DVD of his films, paying for the electricity to run your computer to log on to the internet to get an update on him. Yes, he is paying taxes (then again, how do you know that,)and that his life is magnified because he is in the limelight…is precisely the reason of a higher expectation of him. For Mr. Jang Hyuk to fail to meet such expectations falls short of excellence in such a fine actor and renders mediocrity to his many admirers.
gagaoverhallyu there is a difference between his personal life and his career. I like him as an actor but that does not mean I should get up in his business.
wow, that sounds so….American…..
“I like him as an actor but that does not mean I should get up in his business.” sounds like hyprocrisy to me.
@gagaoverhallyu: Why is that hypocritical? Actors are just doing a job. They have no obligation to make their private lives public.
Also marriage is not “natural”. It’s a social construct which people can choose to either partake in or not. You talk about how just because a lot of people are doing something doesn’t make it right. It’s the same with marriage. Just because a lot of people chose to get married before they have children does not mean it is the only way to do things. There is more than one way to live your life and life choices should be made by the individual.
ahahahah i just find that entertaining
they did more than pilates
So is he getting married because of the baby or?
Hopefully he’s in love with her, that he wasn’t just fooling around.
Congratz to him.
I agree with Gaby, yes he is a public figure. Yes he is a big star who should be responsible of his actions. I just don’t get it, did he ever deny he has is seeing someone? Or did he decline to answer any such questions…Because there’s a big difference of denying it than declining to answer anything about his private life. There are more worst crime than he can commit, than getting his 6 yr gf pregnant. If you would guys think about this, it could turn out that he had a relations with a married woman and got her pregant, or the woman got a abortion, or even worse his beating his pregnant gf. I think that’s much worse scenario compared to this. This are both single adults who knows what’s right from wrong. Who knows whats best for them and whats not. Yes, Jang Hyuk might be a public figure, he is after all an actor. But I still think, if he CHOOSES to keep his private life, private. He has that right! The only thing he owes his fans is the GOOD WORK he produces on screen, that’s it. This is my opinion. This is no difference between Tom Cruise-Katie Holmes situation before. The only difference is Jang Hyuk and his GF knew each along time, compared to Tom Cruise and Katie who knew each for about a year at best.
@ pup December 29 9:47 p.m.
I did check on Gong Yoo but still undecided. Not sure why. but thanks for the suggestion.
gagaoverhallyu how am I being a hypocrite?
Mary and Faa you said just what I wanted to say.
I know we all have different views and I don’t mean to bash anyone who doesn’t have the same views as me. But I do have to say who are we to judge him or say what he did was wrong or right? Why should we judge him on the way he lives his life? He is not hurting anyone. I understand he is a public figure but he should have his privacy and many celebs hide their relationships.
That’s my point. What I don’t like about some religious people is that they say that the only one who can judge is God but yet they go around and judge. I might not be the most religious person but I do have my beliefs.
–”If life were measured by accomplishments,
most of us would die in infancy.”
I’m putting it out there just for something to think about.
ehck gahck ack!!! My Jang Hyuk…!!! =’O
@gagoverhallyu, just addressing some points you were making:
1. There’s nothing wrong with publicly stating your point of view, but when you start pointing fingers at others and saying that their way of living their lives is wrong, I think you’re starting to cross some boundaries. I am an atheist but I don’t go around saying that your Christian beliefs are wrong just because I don’t believe in God.
2. You speak of an open forums where “many diffent beliefs can be shared with no fear of being attacked or criticized” but weren’t you criticizing his decision not to get married before the baby is born?
3. If Carribeane didn’t give someone else respect for their beliefs and choices they make, then why should her opinions be respected? Respect has to be earned, not given blindly.
4. The natural order of life is not marriage then family. That is your way of thinking in accordance to the dictates of society. Marriage is a man-made institution, not an evolution of nature. It is just a piece of paper saying you can have sex and “procreate” without judgmental prudes imposing their narrow POV on your way of life.
5. You seem to have a twisted sense of ownership when it comes to celebrities. Get this right, fans voluntarily support them when they buy their merchandise. Nobody put a gun to their heads and forced them to. What you are paying for is their skills as an entertainer. This does NOT entitle you to a
honest-blow-by-blow-account of his private life. Nor does he have to justify his life to you or his fans.
6. How does his decision to marry a woman he’s been in a relationship for several years, and had a baby with render mediocrity to his many admirers?
I fail to understand what your logic.
The reason why marriage as an institution is crumbling to pieces is precisely because of people like you; who like to judge others without due consideration for the situation they are in. Pressuring two unwilling/unable individuals to get married just to conform to society’s expectations of what is right and pander to your narrow-mindedness is a sacrilege to the “sacredness” of the marital institution.
Congratulations! I admire him for taking up this responsibilities and annoucing this news to public. Kudos to him!
He’s not my favourite actor but why did I still feel sad about it? Ah….I’m scared that my favourite actor who is going to the army next month will follow suit.
I don’t know why everybodies talkin about being all christian when we all know yall christians do the same thing, yall just don’t say it ….why is it such a shocker that he’s having a kid and not getting married till later? maybe that’s the way he wants it. its his and his fiance’s life so I don’t get why yall gettin all mad about it…aint like he two timed her and got another woman preggo!!!! I’m happy for him, but mad that the baby aint mine!! =P
that’s nice to hear…congratz to jang hyuk~
another case of sex w/o condom.
Faa said, “Also marriage is not “natural”. It’s a social construct which people can choose to either partake in or not. You talk about how just because a lot of people are doing something doesn’t make it right. It’s the same with marriage.”
Would a child be happier if his/her parents are married or not? If you can honestly answer this question, then you can determine whether marriage is natural or a social construct.
Mary said, “The only thing he owes his fans is the GOOD WORK he produces on screen, that’s it”
I don’t think so. Being an actor can have a lot of influence on the public so it calls for being a good role model too. And if Korea has traditional values of marriage and family life, then we have to respect these values. I think Mr. Jang Hyuk knows this. If he owed us only his good work and not his good name then why did he have to apologize to his fans after trying to dodge military service?
Gabby said, “I know we all have different views and I don’t mean to bash anyone who doesn’t have the same views as me. But I do have to say who are we to judge him or say what he did was wrong or right?”
We should never judge a person but we ought to judge a person’s actions. That’s why we have laws. Some of us in the forum are simply disappointed that he was not forthright about his child. When he was interviewed in Singapore back in September (which by the way, his girlfriend would have been four months pregnant), he was asked if he has found the ideal wife, and his answer was, ‘Maybe you want me?’ Doesn’t this imply that he didn’t have anyone special. If this isn’t misleading, I don’t know what is.
YoungLark
does that include instances of the child being molested or beaten by one of the parents…because I’m sure “it” would prefer a single parent.
@YoungLark: “Would a child be happier if his/her parents are married or not? If you can honestly answer this question, then you can determine whether marriage is natural or a social construct.”
Studies show that parental marital status has little effect on the well-being of a child. In fact children of parents who have unhappy marriages are far more likely to have problems than children whose parents are separated but civil with each other. Marriage is a social construct. People are not born with an innate need to marry.
YoungLark:
When you ask if marriage is a natural or social construct, the marriage you’re talking about here is one of a monogamous sort. But there are also cultures that practice polygamy. In the Islamic law, a man can take up to four wives if he promises to treat them all equally.
Mating is natural. You have intercourse, you get pregnant, you give birth. These are the biological laws that all mammals obey. But if marriage is a natural construct, then the laws for marriage would have to be the same across different cultures and countries.
So to answer your question, marriage is not a natural construct. You do not need a certificate of marriage to have a child. The happiness of the child does not factor into this question. I’ve seen happy children with separated parents and unhappy kids with parents still together.
Trying to dodge military service and having a child out of wedlock is two entirely different matters. When a man tries to get out of military service, what he is actively doing is putting the country in danger. Apart from humanitarian and disaster-relief efforts, the Republic of Korea Armed Forces is also responsible for maintaining the sovereignty and territorial intergrity of the republic. (Source: Wikipedia) When he abandons his military duties and gets away with it, he is sending a message to the other men of Korea that not serving the country is alright. This, is why he has to apologize.
Who is he harming when he has a child out of wedlock? The traditional values of Korea? If they wanted to preserve the traditional values of marriage and family life, perhaps they should stop screening movies and dramas with betrayals and divorces, and add to that, why not just stop showing all young teenage girls prancing around in skirts just short enough to cover their essential bits?
If parents did their part to educate their kids about the morals of society, instead of relying on the mass media to teach the kids how to act and behave, we’d have a lot more well-adjusted individuals. And none of the retarded anti-fans who threaten and stalk celebrities just because of perceived disappointments.
Actually i don’t find it wrong to first have a baby and then marry but you know everyone has its own opinion, either way they are already having the child first and going to get married after that and as long as they are happy that’s all that matters. Congratulations to Jang Hyuk and his girlfriend.
Younglark, I understand what you’re saying. I personally, don’t live my life dictated by how the actors I idolize live theirs. I still know what’s right from what’s wrong.
Actually, I think he owes his family more to maintain his good name than his fans. In my opinion, Mr. Jang Hyuk still has his good name intact. And phreaque answered the part about the military issue real well, so I don’t have to add anything.
The point of this news is that, a new life is coming. We should be happy. No matter how the order of things came about. The only things we should concern about, is that the baby comes out normal and healthy. As long as Jang Hyuk hasn’t committed any crimes, didn’t hurt anyone and is not stepping on anybody. I think that’s the most important thing in the end of the day.
‘Maybe you want me?’
I rather him answer that. Than saying flatly NO, when he knows his gf is 4 months pregnant. That would just be plin wrong in all levels. There is 3 ways to answer that question, either a YES, NO and MAYBE. People ran on different rythms. I’m guessing, he is not comfortable discussing his private life with the foreign media. But I guess who would? The manner how he answered the question might not be suitable in time. I rather him say that “I don’t really discuss my private life.” But that’s how he chooses to dodge the question. I guess that’s his way, of letting the interviewer know to move to the next question. And I rather him, make the announcement in Korea than in a media junket while promoting a film.
Thanks to Phreaque and Mary in particular for their intelligent and mature explanations to those who seem to have taken something good and somehow interpreted it as “bad” and, what’s more, have blown it WAAAY out of proportion. BTW, the reference to some obscure incident in Singapore, when he allegedly responded “Maybe you want me” is just plain silly. When people choose to keep questions away from their private lives (which are no one’s business), they always give answers like that. Everyone is entitled to such privacy, even actors.
Once again: Best wishes to Jang Hyuk and his wife-to-be for a healthy baby and a happy life.
parallel lines will never meet ________
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Obviously, this forum is not the place where you will find hearts and minds who are willing and are capable of deep, metaphysical discussions. They are only capable of refuting, arguing and objecting to what you have to say – that’s THEIR stand. It is an exercise in futility! I support you … you know who you are … but these people will only believe what they want to believe. Their minds and hearts are closed. You’ve already succeeded!
Jang Hyuk copying TOM-KAT(jus kiddin).
But i don’t like this coz we are asians and have our norms and values.
He can’t ignore that jus bcoz he’s a celebrity.
eeteukluv: It is a given that I was advocating for a healthy family environment. If the child is in an abusive situation, then it is not the child’s fault. The parents is ultimately responsible for the welfare of the child, even if it means that the parents need to separate.
Faa: While it is true that not all people want to marry, there is a natural human tendency to want to preserve the human community. It is said “marriage is the freely accepted consequence of the natural obligation to preserve humanity. By accepting this consequence, the man and the woman do what is right. Marriage and the family produced by it are therefore inseparable prerogatives of our nature, unalienable rights that serve and preserve the distinctive existence made possible by its (our nature’s) laws.”
phreaque: You missed my point. My argument is towards the institution of marriage. Islam does not approve of pre-marital sex. In fact, Islam “encourages marriage as a shield to such temptations and as a means of having mutual love, mercy and peace.”(Invitation to Islam Centre). You said that mating is natural and that if marriage is a natural construct, then the laws for marriage would have to be the same across different cultures and countries. No, I didn’t say that the laws for marriage are the same across all cultures and countries. I do say that there is the natural human instinct to preserve the community through marriage. This is true if you look at the American Indians, the Catholics, the Buddhists, the Islams, the Hindus, the tribes of the remotest Amazon regions. Regarding Mr. Jang Hyuk’s apology, he admitted in one interview that he did wrong in the past. People have forgiven and perhaps they will also let this pass. Also, you are right that movies are not as wholesome as they should be (although Korean movies are a lot better than Hollywood). The only way is to choose what we watch especially with our children.
Anyway, thanks everyone for your thoughts. I know we all have different viewpoints. Like Celeste said, it may be futile to keep arguing. And so I leave this forum in peace and good will.
Komapsumnida! 감사합니다
thank you for your wise insight and contribution. i learned a lot. peace to you!
ohmygoodness
a baby? a marriage? why so fast with my baby!
damn another hottie taken
i wonder how this ms. kim looks like
anyways
congrats to my janghyuk<3
Traditional order:
1)marriage first
2)then baby is thrown out the window
I saw a pic of Ms. Kim. She’s absolutely gorgeous! I’m predicting a beautiful baby!
What does Kim Yeo Jin look like? There is an actress who is 33 years old by the name of Kim Yeo Jin…is that her?
congratulations to him and hope their marriage will last, then it will be like a fairy tale!
@calla
I was reading all the comments on this page; I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT JANG IS TAKEN. I HATE HIS GIRL–getting preg.
TO CALLA: u HAVE NO MORAL–why don’t u get preg. first then. I USED TO LOVE JH BUT NOW I CAN’T!!!!!
I LOVED HIM WHEN I SAW “THANK YOU”: HE WAS CUTE LIKE SE7EN.
Congrats to Jang Hyuk! This news was a shocker to me too when I read it 3 days ago.
Jang Hyuk has been with his fiancee for almost 6 years and they seem to be truly in love. If you guys get the chance to read his statement you can sense how much he loves that woman. Yes it would’ve been better if they get married first then have a kid…but the most important thing is that they both love each other and their child will be loved by both parents.
I’m proud that Jang Hyuk is announcing it now rather than trying to keep things under wraps. He knows it might affect his career in a negative way but he still does what he feels is right for him and his loved ones.
now i know that popseoul is not a good place to visit anymore…
i thought that popseoul will still have some moral ethics to tell the youngsters or readers of your site what is right and wrong. beside bashing artistes for their professionalism and hard work, popseoul seems to be encouraging others to follow what jang hyuk did… his engagement in june has proven that he is doing so because his girlfriend is pregnant.
I personally don’t believe in having kids before marriage, but I’m not going to start judging/criticizing jang hyuk for that…i actually think he handled it very responsibly. it just bugs me how everyone’s arguing here…i mean seriously, LEARN TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND! people are not always going to agree with u. get over it.
He has been keeping his love relationship secretly all these years but want to have a wedding which is open to the public eyes. Sounds like want to showoff his preety bride….Don’t like this kind of celeb.
I never felt this way about any Korean actors but after watching the drama “Thank you” I felt in love with him. Lucky girl to be marry and have a baby with him. He is definetely eye candy to me.
@Pinky626:
Same here. “Thank you” made him stand out for me. And I like that he is marrying her and announcing his decision; setting aside any ‘fear’ of negative reaction from fans, if any; and taking the risk of what it may do to his career. I heard fans are a bit possesive in Korea (correct me if i’m wrong), that’s why the high profile male celebrities in Korea stay single and/or keep their private lives extremely private.
actually she’s an actress as well. She’s the one in Yi San she played Queen Jeong Sun
as for what she looks like here’s link: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5325/photo46251jr6.jpg
Hi.My name is battogtokh.I’m mongolia.I your Fan
bi tanii fan shuu.hariu bicheerei
I like him!
jang hyuk is genteel man. he is very beautiful.
he is a good actor in the world,
i from iran i wish see him.
HI
jang hyuk is very attractive & lovely .
elham from Iran_ Tehran
Love Hyuk Hyuk for his great acting in Thank you! Enjoyed watching Tazza and Robber. Hope to see more great series from him.
To Hyuk: Wish you, your beloved wife and BB live happy ever after!